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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7427758" data-attributes="member: 1465">To clarify, the main question here is related to doing it indeed at every level, i.e. give up the whole subclass and get one ASI/feat at each level when you would have gotten a subclass feature instead.But you may also consider the idea of doing it partially, so that the character does have a subclass but gives up some subclass levels in exchange for an ASI/feat. I didn't mention this variant mainly to keep the question simple, and also because the more freedom to the player always means more chances to abuse. I just think it's easier to first think about a complete replacement.Consider only the Wizard class then. The context in which this idea originated, is a Wizard player undecided on which Arcane Tradition to choose (and not so much undecided between two but rather undecided between most of them...). There are of course other ways to deal with such situation, but this is the first time that the idea of not having a subclass at all comes to my mind so I wanted to focus the thread only on that.So while I made the question generic and include all classes, you can just pick one and say if it sounds doable or not for that specific class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 7427758, member: 1465"] To clarify, the main question here is related to doing it indeed at every level, i.e. give up the whole subclass and get one ASI/feat at each level when you would have gotten a subclass feature instead. But you may also consider the idea of doing it [I]partially[/I], so that the character does have a subclass but gives up [I]some[/I] subclass levels in exchange for an ASI/feat. I didn't mention this variant mainly to keep the question simple, and also because the more freedom to the player always means more chances to abuse. I just think it's easier to first think about a complete replacement. Consider only the Wizard class then. The context in which this idea originated, is a Wizard player undecided on which Arcane Tradition to choose (and not so much undecided between [I]two[/I] but rather undecided between [I]most[/I] of them...). There are of course other ways to deal with such situation, but this is the first time that the idea of [I]not having a subclass at all[/I] comes to my mind so I wanted to focus the thread only on that. So while I made the question generic and include all classes, you can just pick one and say if it sounds doable or not for that specific class. [/QUOTE]

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