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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4850787" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Ok, so last night's game, one of the party members is improved grabbed by the purple worm we were fighting. We knew that being swallowed was imminent (one PC got a 41 knowledge check result, and the DM just said, "you can read the stat block" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ), but had no real way to prevent it. Even grease's +10 wouldn't be much help to overcome that thing's grapple mod. We had benign transposition, but no one wanted to swap places obviously.</p><p></p><p>I came up with a random idea: The bard knew Entice Gift, why not use that to make it relese our friend? We had already recognized from other spells (and said knowledge check) that it didn't have a very good will save... In the end, the DM didn't want to make a ruling on it, and just noted that by then it was so wounded we were "pretty sure" we could just finish it off that round anyway.</p><p></p><p>But I'm still curious. What would you guys rule? I can see two major obstacles for it not being allowed:</p><p>1) Definition of "held." The purple worm has no hands, so I would consider something in its mouth to be effectively held, maybe that's incorrect. Would it matter if the creature did have hand-like appendages? Would you rule in the former case, things in its mouth are held, but not in the latter case?</p><p>2) The spell text mentions the "object" being held several times. But there is no (object) anywhere in the above spell stats (like under Saving Throw), and no where does it explicitly state that the thing handed over must be an object. So I figured it was just a casual way of talking about what happens, rather than a hard rule.</p><p></p><p>The spell is from Spell Compendium, if you weren't sure. It is an Enchantment (Mind Affecting) spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4850787, member: 35909"] Ok, so last night's game, one of the party members is improved grabbed by the purple worm we were fighting. We knew that being swallowed was imminent (one PC got a 41 knowledge check result, and the DM just said, "you can read the stat block" :) ), but had no real way to prevent it. Even grease's +10 wouldn't be much help to overcome that thing's grapple mod. We had benign transposition, but no one wanted to swap places obviously. I came up with a random idea: The bard knew Entice Gift, why not use that to make it relese our friend? We had already recognized from other spells (and said knowledge check) that it didn't have a very good will save... In the end, the DM didn't want to make a ruling on it, and just noted that by then it was so wounded we were "pretty sure" we could just finish it off that round anyway. But I'm still curious. What would you guys rule? I can see two major obstacles for it not being allowed: 1) Definition of "held." The purple worm has no hands, so I would consider something in its mouth to be effectively held, maybe that's incorrect. Would it matter if the creature did have hand-like appendages? Would you rule in the former case, things in its mouth are held, but not in the latter case? 2) The spell text mentions the "object" being held several times. But there is no (object) anywhere in the above spell stats (like under Saving Throw), and no where does it explicitly state that the thing handed over must be an object. So I figured it was just a casual way of talking about what happens, rather than a hard rule. The spell is from Spell Compendium, if you weren't sure. It is an Enchantment (Mind Affecting) spell. [/QUOTE]
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