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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 2506515" data-attributes="member: 6957">Not as strong (+6 rather than +10 Str) nor as stupid (- 4 Int - but that is not as bad as it seems, they are slow thinkers, but very thorough - in circumstances where they can take 20 for intelligence based skills they can take 30... taking thirty times as long a they crunch every possible variable. Good mathematicians and chess players, lousy at something that needs a fast response time.) Their ancestors were chaotic evil, most modern ogres are lawful neutral. They get along best with dwarfs. Humans and elfs are too flighty to keep up with. Commonly hired as mercenaries, they serve in nearly every army.Ogres are the biggest giant that a dwarf can attempt to breed with 'the old fashioned way'. However it has never once occured, since neither the ogres or dwarfs find each other physically attractive, and are not biologically given to rape. Artificial insemination might be possible with a larger giant, but while an offspring is possible stillbirth would be much more common. Ogres suffer a similar problem breeding with other giants - biologically they are closer to dwarfs than to the other giants. Go right ahead.The Auld Grump</blockquote>