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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8654867" data-attributes="member: 23751">You typed out a whole lot for something I already knew and acknowledged. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&quot;But it isn't, because if this character does not make the switch, having the proficiency means that shields are usable in an emergency with no penalty...&quot;Disadvantage can kill.&nbsp; As can that 10% if the monster does enough damage.&nbsp; Sometimes the player will want to use the shield without penalty in an emergency.They will typically come into play extremely rarely.&nbsp; typically far more rare than a situation where you might want to use a shield.You think that just because Tasha's allows this trade that armor is = to a tool?&nbsp; The Tasha's swaps don't make any sense if you look at them.&nbsp; I mean, you can swap an armor proficiency for a martial weapon proficiency, but you cannot swap a martial weapon proficiency for an armor proficiency.&nbsp; If the swaps were based on equality, you could swap in both directions.&nbsp; Same with tools.&nbsp; You can swap down from an armor proficiency to a tool proficiency, but you cannot swap up from a tool proficiency to armor proficiency.There's no way an armor proficiency is equal to a tool. Usefulness in 6-8 encounters per adventuring day is far, FAR superior to being rarely useful.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8654867, member: 23751"] You typed out a whole lot for something I already knew and acknowledged. ;) "But it isn't, because if this character does not make the switch, having the proficiency means that shields are usable in an emergency [B]with no penalty[/B]..." Disadvantage can kill. As can that 10% if the monster does enough damage. Sometimes the player will want to use the shield without penalty in an emergency. They will typically come into play extremely rarely. typically far more rare than a situation where you might want to use a shield. You think that just because Tasha's allows this trade that armor is = to a tool? The Tasha's swaps don't make any sense if you look at them. I mean, you can swap an armor proficiency for a martial weapon proficiency, but you cannot swap a martial weapon proficiency for an armor proficiency. If the swaps were based on equality, you could swap in both directions. Same with tools. You can swap down from an armor proficiency to a tool proficiency, but you cannot swap up from a tool proficiency to armor proficiency. There's no way an armor proficiency is equal to a tool. Usefulness in 6-8 encounters per adventuring day is far, FAR superior to being rarely useful. [/QUOTE]

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