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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 2057293" data-attributes="member: 7240">EB,I was not stating that I personally believe modern liberal democracy is inherently good or inequality is inherently evil. I was simply trying to get to which values you see as transcultural and transhistorical. You kindly provided me with a list:You have to admit that this list appears, for people who do not share your values, to be pretty arbitrary. What I'm trying to draw attention to here is that even though you may esteem these things as transcultural, transhistorical absolute values, this is just your personal moral system. They are not natural laws received from the universe itself. And even if they were, if we can suspend so many scientific laws that really are mandated by the universe itself when we play D&D, why should your personal moral code not be subject to a similar suspension?Also, part of the reason I was drawing towards the issue of slavery was this: you seem to be arguing that non-consensual ownership of people is not inherently evil but consensual renting of people is.I'll deal with your post at greater length when I have done my conference presentation on Saturday.</blockquote>