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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Seeten" data-source="post: 2113234" data-attributes="member: 27186">Just thought I'd let you know I object to this paragraph as in every possible way. Your contention that prostitution harms society is as baseless as my statement that prostitution is a valuable outlet for the "passions" of people and helps preserve the mores of society by giving an outlet where the "baser" needs are taken care of, so polite society need not deal with them.Society is only hurt by prostitution in the cultural context where people find sex offensive, particularly easy/sleazy sex. I don't find sex offensive. I don't find prostitution offensive. I can easily imagine worlds where it is not offensive, and I can find cultures in the real world, historically, where it was not offensive. For that matter, I can find cultures where sex with young boys, as a man, was considered beneficial to their betterment and education, and as a manly pursuit.Thusly, I am of the opinion that your personal bias based on bible belt doctrine of intrinsic wrong in prostitution is A) Wrong and B) Certainly not something I want to explore.In fact, everyone's personal bias has no bearing on the campaigns I want to play. As a Canadian, conservative moral values such as whether prostitutes or gays are inherently evil and decay the moral fabric of society are NOT universally accepted, even as close to America as Canada.  I don't subscribe to this belief, nor do I consider it a prerequisite to entry into any conversation, and more, I find IT objectionable, possibly as objectionable as you find the objectification of women.I do not believe women should be objectified, at least, not more than they want to be. This last part is relevant in my opinion.  I have a friend who was a stripper in university. It is how she chose to pay her way through university. She went to law school.  She only stripped for 2 years, as after the initial 2 years, she was on scholarship, but she still dropped in occasionally for a little money, or to see old friends.  She told me between stripping for hundreds an hour and Subway for 60 a day, she'd take stripping any day. Plus, as something of an exhibitionist, she found it fun, and exciting.  She wasnt abused, raped, or beaten, she made good money, and people saw her naked.  If she was demeaned, it was no more demeaning than she chose it to be. She wasnt touched in ways she didnt want. She made good money. People like you, of course, insult her, and all she stands for, in the interest of "The betterment of society."However, what you really mean, is, "Society the way I approve of it based on my wants/needs and what I think is best" and your better society is my "repressive, lawful evil, morally regressive pit".I think a Paladin, who takes the view that all prostitutes are evil, and so is the institution, are as evil as any other Tyrant. Ie, they are lawful evil and treading on dangerous Blackguard ground. I guess my campaign and your campaign are drastically different.So, I voted yes.I think the concept is interesting, assuming the world supports it. Frex, he couldnt be in my current campaign, which had no Gods, no clerics and no Paladins, to start with, but now that Gods have appeared, this concept would work with one of the LG Gods that isnt concerned with Puritanism. (Which is all of them.) To me, the concept of purity and chastity is not an LG one.  I will not be commenting on the Catholic practice of the concept, but suffice it to say, I dont see it as a good institution.(Chastity for clergy that is.)Great debate, but I find much of the debate has been far to puritanical for my taste. I guess I am glad I live where I do.</blockquote>

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