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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="Sigg" data-source="post: 2381197" data-attributes="member: 30546"><p>Although I agree with you on several details (such as many people who seem moral or good aren't really), it's in the overall idea you're presenting where I disagree. First, you seem to be confusing the player of a paladin with the character. Because many players might play paladins as "naive chuckleheads" doesn't mean they don't intend for their characters to good and true....it's just that the PLAYER might not have the same depth of insight as maybe their character would. Also, I strongly disagree that "Politeness and its associated trivialities are nonsense and lies". Showing courtesy to another person is showing respect (which all being deserve) for their feelings and humanity. That you might not agree with that person about the inherent value of their standards of morality or civility is not sufficient reason to dismiss their ideas and feelings. Feigned respect is never good, but neither is not having respect at all. Not respecting others is a sign that you lack understanding, compassion, and love for others. If you truely love other people, despite their flaws and ignorances, then courtesy and respect come naturally and without effort. To relate to the fictional character presented, his lack of respect reveals a lack of faith, love, compassion, and understanding in and for his patron and his fellow sentient beings. If Cedric had only shown a bit of gruffness or rough edges socially speaking I would have no trouble with him. It's that combined with his self-pitying diatribe about how rough a life paladins have and his condescending attitude towards the knight sent to find him that would be a deal-killer for this character in my game. This attitude he displayed in this fictional piece would have me (playing the part of his patron) removing his gifts and sending him dreams. I might even send the senior priest in the area a dream/vision directing the church to recall this wayward son so he can be counselled and healed of his obvious emotional pain.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sigg, post: 2381197, member: 30546"] Although I agree with you on several details (such as many people who seem moral or good aren't really), it's in the overall idea you're presenting where I disagree. First, you seem to be confusing the player of a paladin with the character. Because many players might play paladins as "naive chuckleheads" doesn't mean they don't intend for their characters to good and true....it's just that the PLAYER might not have the same depth of insight as maybe their character would. Also, I strongly disagree that "Politeness and its associated trivialities are nonsense and lies". Showing courtesy to another person is showing respect (which all being deserve) for their feelings and humanity. That you might not agree with that person about the inherent value of their standards of morality or civility is not sufficient reason to dismiss their ideas and feelings. Feigned respect is never good, but neither is not having respect at all. Not respecting others is a sign that you lack understanding, compassion, and love for others. If you truely love other people, despite their flaws and ignorances, then courtesy and respect come naturally and without effort. To relate to the fictional character presented, his lack of respect reveals a lack of faith, love, compassion, and understanding in and for his patron and his fellow sentient beings. If Cedric had only shown a bit of gruffness or rough edges socially speaking I would have no trouble with him. It's that combined with his self-pitying diatribe about how rough a life paladins have and his condescending attitude towards the knight sent to find him that would be a deal-killer for this character in my game. This attitude he displayed in this fictional piece would have me (playing the part of his patron) removing his gifts and sending him dreams. I might even send the senior priest in the area a dream/vision directing the church to recall this wayward son so he can be counselled and healed of his obvious emotional pain. [/QUOTE]
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