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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="genshou" data-source="post: 2783634" data-attributes="member: 13164"><p>Oh, since I haven't answered the original question:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">No.</span></p><p>I don't care how you wheedle and try to rationalize it, or put up strawman arguments about cultural bias. Prostitution is wrong as far as I'll ever be concerned.</p><p></p><p>Let's look at some of the rationalizations I've seen.</p><p>1) Some prostitution rings are... er, something gumdrop-related. Can't remember the exact term.</p><p></p><p>Well, I can understand this, to some extent. Slavery is an evil thing, but bondage is something some couples freely choose to explore in their consentual sexual relations. Does that make BDSM evil? Certainly not, not in any sense of the word. So, I'll give you that one. However, how many of these institutions TRULY exist? There might be a fairly "civilized" prostitution ring, but the fact is that those in it aren't all going to be idyllic. The majority of them will still be in prostitution simply because they are desperate for cash.</p><p></p><p>2) There is no support in the RAW for prohibition of paladins being Johns.</p><p></p><p>This one is subject to interpretation, and I'm with <strong>The Sigil</strong>. It can be argued either way <em>ad infinitum</em>, but my view goes beyond the RAW and into the concept of moral objectivity. As if RAW matters to a tinkerer like me.</p><p></p><p>3) Prostitution is not evil because objectifying women is no less wrong than objectifying a dancer.</p><p></p><p>What percentage of dancers entered the career because they had no other choice besides selling drugs or other criminal activities? What percentage of prostitutes entered the career because they believe it to be an enjoyable career which allows them to express themselves artistically?</p><p></p><p>4) Prostitution is actually good for society, because it allows for the destitute to have a source of income and/or allows for people to ease off their sexual frustration.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of other ways for the destitute to make money. The only reason we have 'destitute' in the first place is because a free market allows few to be wealthy at the expense of everyone else. There wouldn't be a financial need for prostitution in a socialism or communism, ergo that argument is not applicable except in certain circumstances. As to the idea that it allows for sexual mores to be let out in a constructive manner, let me toss out a wrench. What if legalized prostitution, instead of making a safe outlet for such aberrant behavior, acts as a positive reinforcement for it? Discuss.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="genshou, post: 2783634, member: 13164"] Oh, since I haven't answered the original question: [size=4]No.[/size] I don't care how you wheedle and try to rationalize it, or put up strawman arguments about cultural bias. Prostitution is wrong as far as I'll ever be concerned. Let's look at some of the rationalizations I've seen. 1) Some prostitution rings are... er, something gumdrop-related. Can't remember the exact term. Well, I can understand this, to some extent. Slavery is an evil thing, but bondage is something some couples freely choose to explore in their consentual sexual relations. Does that make BDSM evil? Certainly not, not in any sense of the word. So, I'll give you that one. However, how many of these institutions TRULY exist? There might be a fairly "civilized" prostitution ring, but the fact is that those in it aren't all going to be idyllic. The majority of them will still be in prostitution simply because they are desperate for cash. 2) There is no support in the RAW for prohibition of paladins being Johns. This one is subject to interpretation, and I'm with [B]The Sigil[/B]. It can be argued either way [I]ad infinitum[/I], but my view goes beyond the RAW and into the concept of moral objectivity. As if RAW matters to a tinkerer like me. 3) Prostitution is not evil because objectifying women is no less wrong than objectifying a dancer. What percentage of dancers entered the career because they had no other choice besides selling drugs or other criminal activities? What percentage of prostitutes entered the career because they believe it to be an enjoyable career which allows them to express themselves artistically? 4) Prostitution is actually good for society, because it allows for the destitute to have a source of income and/or allows for people to ease off their sexual frustration. There are plenty of other ways for the destitute to make money. The only reason we have 'destitute' in the first place is because a free market allows few to be wealthy at the expense of everyone else. There wouldn't be a financial need for prostitution in a socialism or communism, ergo that argument is not applicable except in certain circumstances. As to the idea that it allows for sexual mores to be let out in a constructive manner, let me toss out a wrench. What if legalized prostitution, instead of making a safe outlet for such aberrant behavior, acts as a positive reinforcement for it? Discuss. [/QUOTE]
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