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<blockquote data-quote="genshou" data-source="post: 2788453" data-attributes="member: 13164"><p>Please do; that's why I posted. I'm just glad someone has enough energy left to contest.</p><p></p><p>(emphasis added below)</p><p></p><p>It should be obvious that this is my opinion and nothing else. Did you think I was inferring otherwise? And the whole "cultural bias" argument is a straw man simply because it is a sham argument being used to divert attention from other arguments against the original debate.</p><p></p><p>By idyllic I am referring to the picturesque brothel which came up in the initial post, as well as the "perfect situations" people keep bringing up. Sure there are those who simply choose to do it because they want to make a lot of money per night and don't care about what they're doing. But are they the majority? I'd imagine that they are far from it.</p><p></p><p>When have I ever cited the RAW? I think you are confusing me with someone else. :\ What I did say that I'm more in favor of ignoring or adding to the RAW.</p><p></p><p>I'm confused about what you're getting at by referring to a d%. And to tell you the truth, I couldn't care less what the majority of the world thinks, because we as a species have proven time and time again that the majority is usually wrong. The majority of people in this world are morally, ethically, and philosophically uneducated, if not downright ignorant. There's a reason why societies ruled by a benevolent, cultural elite have usually fared better than those ruled by the majority. </p><p></p><p>That's an awful strong reaction based on what I actually said. All I did was point out the fact that arguing about objectifying a prostitute vs. objectifying a dancer is a ridiculous way to try to prove a point. Sure there are lots of reasons women get into such careers. I've never disagreed with that and perfectly understand what you're getting at. I never considered the people behind the business to be "evil", because as you pointed out there are a great deal of circumstances which could apply to any given prostitute.</p><p></p><p>I'd be interesting in hearing a statistic of the average income per night of a prostitute. I'm getting sick of seeing these high numbers being tossed around without anything to back them up. When I say "destitute" I don't mean they'll necessarily be there after they get into prostitution, only that so many turn to it because they already are. What percentage of prostitutes do you think are making 25k a night on only one John, anyway?!?!?!</p><p></p><p>Would it be better, perhaps, if instead of saying that prostitutes are evil or immoral, we were simply to say that prostitution itself and the support thereof is evil or immoral? It is a possibility which we will leave open to debate. And as part of that debate, I will throw this out. If prostitution is such a lucrative career, then why aren't all you "prostitution is not evil/immoral/wrong" proponents out there doing it instead of arguing moral philosophy on a messageboard? Honestly answer that, please.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="genshou, post: 2788453, member: 13164"] Please do; that's why I posted. I'm just glad someone has enough energy left to contest. (emphasis added below) It should be obvious that this is my opinion and nothing else. Did you think I was inferring otherwise? And the whole "cultural bias" argument is a straw man simply because it is a sham argument being used to divert attention from other arguments against the original debate. By idyllic I am referring to the picturesque brothel which came up in the initial post, as well as the "perfect situations" people keep bringing up. Sure there are those who simply choose to do it because they want to make a lot of money per night and don't care about what they're doing. But are they the majority? I'd imagine that they are far from it. When have I ever cited the RAW? I think you are confusing me with someone else. :\ What I did say that I'm more in favor of ignoring or adding to the RAW. I'm confused about what you're getting at by referring to a d%. And to tell you the truth, I couldn't care less what the majority of the world thinks, because we as a species have proven time and time again that the majority is usually wrong. The majority of people in this world are morally, ethically, and philosophically uneducated, if not downright ignorant. There's a reason why societies ruled by a benevolent, cultural elite have usually fared better than those ruled by the majority. That's an awful strong reaction based on what I actually said. All I did was point out the fact that arguing about objectifying a prostitute vs. objectifying a dancer is a ridiculous way to try to prove a point. Sure there are lots of reasons women get into such careers. I've never disagreed with that and perfectly understand what you're getting at. I never considered the people behind the business to be "evil", because as you pointed out there are a great deal of circumstances which could apply to any given prostitute. I'd be interesting in hearing a statistic of the average income per night of a prostitute. I'm getting sick of seeing these high numbers being tossed around without anything to back them up. When I say "destitute" I don't mean they'll necessarily be there after they get into prostitution, only that so many turn to it because they already are. What percentage of prostitutes do you think are making 25k a night on only one John, anyway?!?!?! Would it be better, perhaps, if instead of saying that prostitutes are evil or immoral, we were simply to say that prostitution itself and the support thereof is evil or immoral? It is a possibility which we will leave open to debate. And as part of that debate, I will throw this out. If prostitution is such a lucrative career, then why aren't all you "prostitution is not evil/immoral/wrong" proponents out there doing it instead of arguing moral philosophy on a messageboard? Honestly answer that, please. [/QUOTE]
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