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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aurondarklord" data-source="post: 6044953" data-attributes="member: 6667464">But then how do you explain that they continue to get class abilities and spells, ostensibly FROM Heironeous?  It just seems to me like the format of D&D has to be bent quite a lot if one wishes to insert the assumption of "the players can never be provably wrong about how the universe works".Also, with regards to the question of the world vindicating the paladin's faith, and the paladin being required to be hopeful and believe in inevitable triumph, I present a passage from the book of exalted deeds, describing a heroic archetype they refer to as the "fated champion":"Martyrdom is the inevitable doom of the fated champion.  She knows that her passion for righteous deeds will lead to her death, and so all she does is tinged with a melancholy fatalism.  At times, she might speak glowingly about the great reward that certainly awaits her and her companions in the celestial realms, but at other times she focuses on the inevitability of her doom.  Her heroism is undiminished by her certainty that it will cause her death, however, and she is capable of truly astonishing acts of valor performed with no regard for her own safety."Aside from the use of a female pronoun, that sounds like a biographical description of Cedric's worldview.The book of exalted deeds also provides a sample multiclass rogue/paladin who still uses rogue-like weapons, carries thieves tools, and can sneak attack, with no mention of these things endangering his paladinhood</blockquote>

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