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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 6056916" data-attributes="member: 4303"><p>First, kudos to [MENTION=198]shilsen[/MENTION] for enjoying numerous thread necros over the last 7 years. I confess, I read the first post only, and those posted over the last few days.</p><p></p><p>That said, I would be dubious about allowing this character to be a <em>Paladin</em> - as conventionally described - on two counts:</p><p></p><p><strong>1) It defies believability/verisimilitude</strong>: I find it very hard to accept that there will <em>not</em> be a coercive/exploitative component to prostitution <em>given human history and experience</em>. Yes, the DM can mandate whatever he or she feels as "societally acceptable" as far as the ethical dimensions of sexuality are concerned within the campaign, but these broader issues are not addressed. What is the relationship between the procuress and the prostitutes? What are their rights? Are they unionized?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Emphasis mine. Is ownership reasonably implied? By patronizing this establishment, is Cedric condoning the institution of prostitution? Of indentured sexual thralldom? </p><p></p><p><strong>2) It violates archetype.</strong> For good or bad, the Paladin archetype is drawn from the mythical Arthurian grail-knights and the companions of Charlemagne seen through rose-tinted, medieval Aquitanian eyes: it is a specific, literary expression of an ideal. Should Paladins be chaste? Humble? Pious? Abstemious? My answer is unequivocally <em>yes</em>. The Paladin might practice <em>fine amour</em>, but the notion that he is licentious or lewd run contrary to the literary precedents.</p><p></p><p>This gives rise to a fundamental cognitive dissonance; I would regard this character as untenable, unless one redefines what <em>Paladin</em> actually means. The internal moral dialogue of the Paladin is what defines him; but at this point, the notion of <em>Paladinhood</em> is drawn into question.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchrave II, post: 6056916, member: 4303"] First, kudos to [MENTION=198]shilsen[/MENTION] for enjoying numerous thread necros over the last 7 years. I confess, I read the first post only, and those posted over the last few days. That said, I would be dubious about allowing this character to be a [I]Paladin[/I] - as conventionally described - on two counts: [B]1) It defies believability/verisimilitude[/B]: I find it very hard to accept that there will [I]not[/I] be a coercive/exploitative component to prostitution [I]given human history and experience[/I]. Yes, the DM can mandate whatever he or she feels as "societally acceptable" as far as the ethical dimensions of sexuality are concerned within the campaign, but these broader issues are not addressed. What is the relationship between the procuress and the prostitutes? What are their rights? Are they unionized? Emphasis mine. Is ownership reasonably implied? By patronizing this establishment, is Cedric condoning the institution of prostitution? Of indentured sexual thralldom? [B]2) It violates archetype.[/B] For good or bad, the Paladin archetype is drawn from the mythical Arthurian grail-knights and the companions of Charlemagne seen through rose-tinted, medieval Aquitanian eyes: it is a specific, literary expression of an ideal. Should Paladins be chaste? Humble? Pious? Abstemious? My answer is unequivocally [I]yes[/I]. The Paladin might practice [I]fine amour[/I], but the notion that he is licentious or lewd run contrary to the literary precedents. This gives rise to a fundamental cognitive dissonance; I would regard this character as untenable, unless one redefines what [I]Paladin[/I] actually means. The internal moral dialogue of the Paladin is what defines him; but at this point, the notion of [I]Paladinhood[/I] is drawn into question. [/QUOTE]
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