Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="humble minion" data-source="post: 5432836" data-attributes="member: 5948">Thing one I've got absolutely zero interest in, and I'd hazard a guess that not many would.  Even those who play in FR seem to avoid official NPCs etc as much as they can, as far as I've been able to tell, and the problem with playing during the Spellplague is that during the Spellplague it's quite hard to tell a story that's not primarily about the spellplague.Thing 2 - well, that's a bit more complicated.  Personally I still play 3.5 (mostly because I didn't want to convert the ongoing campaign), but I'm very aware of the problems in the 3e system and think that 4th ed was probably about due.  WotC and I seem to agree about a lot of things when it comes to the problems with 3.x (DM prep time, very complex high-level bad guys, magic item christmas tree syndrome, my personal stylistic dislike of the 'layering-buffs' style of play, etc), but we have real differences about the best way to solve them, despite my deep love of minion rules, the disease track, and a bunch of other 4e features.  Instead of the 4e that we got, I would have loved to get a slightly-more-3.xish-4e like the 'compromise' ruleset you're talking about, but now I think the horse has bolted.  The 3.x holdovers seem to be slowly heading Pathfinderwards, the 4e supporters have overwhelmingly already tried 3e and will never go back, and I think the opportunity for incremental change has passed.  Everyone has their own little niche arranged and defended, the OGL genie is out of the bottle and whatever WotC does the pathfinder splinter community is strongly independant now and seems unlikely to return to the fold.  I'd certainly give a hybrid 3e/4e system a look and I'm sure many others would too, but I don't think at this point in the community's life it's going to do much good.I expect 5e, when it comes along, to be at least as different to 4e as 4e was to 3.x.  And maybe that will be a good thing, because as Pathfinder (particularly in later Pathfinder editions, which will surely come in time) and the 'official'  D&D rulebase diverge and the wounds of the 4e transition and the community split fade, maybe we can just start to see two games as two games, which emphasise and focus on different subgenres and which each have their place.  It's a bit funny really, in a slightly sad way.  There's a lot of people on here who use one game system (whether it be Pathfinder or some D&D edition or other) for their fantasy gaming and another system for their superhero/sci-fi/horror/pulp/whatever games as appropriate, but very few who seem to use 4e for one style of fantasy game and 3.x/Pathfinder for another.  It'd be nice if this started to change, over the next 5-10 years.</blockquote>

Verification