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<blockquote data-quote="Roman" data-source="post: 4158652" data-attributes="member: 1845">Because I dislike many aspects of 4e. Firstly, there is the issue of the rules. I feel that simulationism (and I like me my simulationism) has been trampled over - basically, the designers paid no attention to it whatsoever and whatever simulationism is present in the rules is there not by deliberate design, but arising coincidently out of their gamist rules. Simulationism in the rules is especially important for me as a DM and less so as a player (though I do like it as a player too), but I am almost always the DM. Then there is flavor. Even though I do like many of the flavor changes individually, their extent makes it feel like not D&amp;D for me anymore - I do enjoy my D&amp;D tropes - that is one of the reasons I play the game. These are all reasons for me not to buy 4e... if it is closed. If it is open at least to some extent, some of these problems of the new edition might be eliminated or at least mitigated by third party products. There are some aspects of 4e that I do like (for example, every class getting something interesting at every level, or the elimination of iterative attacks), so eliminating/mitigating the above issues through third party options may make me buy the game. Still, it is uncertain whether third party companies would actually provide this kind of support, so my buying of 4e would not be guarranteed even if it were open. As to other closed RPGs, I don't currently play RPGs other than D&amp;D (and if I don't switch to 4e, I will stay with 3.5E or go to Pathfinder, but I won't go looking for some completely different RPG). Nevertheless, if I liked the rules and flavor of an RPG such that I did not need them supplemented/redefined by third party products, I would not care much as to whether it were open or closed. Indeed, 3.5E is such an RPG for me and I would have bought it even if it were closed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Roman, post: 4158652, member: 1845"] Because I dislike many aspects of 4e. Firstly, there is the issue of the rules. I feel that simulationism (and I like me my simulationism) has been trampled over - basically, the designers paid no attention to it whatsoever and whatever simulationism is present in the rules is there not by deliberate design, but arising coincidently out of their gamist rules. Simulationism in the rules is especially important for me as a DM and less so as a player (though I do like it as a player too), but I am almost always the DM. Then there is flavor. Even though I do like many of the flavor changes individually, their extent makes it feel like not D&D for me anymore - I do enjoy my D&D tropes - that is one of the reasons I play the game. These are all reasons for me not to buy 4e... if it is closed. If it is open at least to some extent, some of these problems of the new edition might be eliminated or at least mitigated by third party products. There are some aspects of 4e that I do like (for example, every class getting something interesting at every level, or the elimination of iterative attacks), so eliminating/mitigating the above issues through third party options may make me buy the game. Still, it is uncertain whether third party companies would actually provide this kind of support, so my buying of 4e would not be guarranteed even if it were open. As to other closed RPGs, I don't currently play RPGs other than D&D (and if I don't switch to 4e, I will stay with 3.5E or go to Pathfinder, but I won't go looking for some completely different RPG). Nevertheless, if I liked the rules and flavor of an RPG such that I did not need them supplemented/redefined by third party products, I would not care much as to whether it were open or closed. Indeed, 3.5E is such an RPG for me and I would have bought it even if it were closed. [/QUOTE]

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