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<blockquote data-quote="BadMojo" data-source="post: 4161445" data-attributes="member: 569">He's talking about the &quot;GNS&quot; thing from Ron Edwards.&nbsp; Personally, I never thought of D&amp;D as being particularly &quot;simulationist&quot;, but it definitely seems to be moving even more towards the gamist end of the spectrum.My reasons are 100% the same, but unfortunately there's a lot of things inherent to the design of 4E that I don't like.&nbsp; I'll certainly give it a try, but right now I can't imagine myself wanting to play this game on any long term basis.The only things that might keep me around 4E a bit longer would be some sort of &quot;killer app&quot; as far as an adventure (or series of) that are just too good to pass up.I honestly doubt that WotC is going to do produce something amazing as far as adventures go.&nbsp; They've been very &quot;hit or miss&quot; for me and I've relied on 3rd party products heavily.&nbsp;&nbsp; So, without good third party adventures I most likely won't be playing 4E very much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BadMojo, post: 4161445, member: 569"] He's talking about the "GNS" thing from Ron Edwards. Personally, I never thought of D&D as being particularly "simulationist", but it definitely seems to be moving even more towards the gamist end of the spectrum. My reasons are 100% the same, but unfortunately there's a lot of things inherent to the design of 4E that I don't like. I'll certainly give it a try, but right now I can't imagine myself wanting to play this game on any long term basis. The only things that might keep me around 4E a bit longer would be some sort of "killer app" as far as an adventure (or series of) that are just too good to pass up. I honestly doubt that WotC is going to do produce something amazing as far as adventures go. They've been very "hit or miss" for me and I've relied on 3rd party products heavily. So, without good third party adventures I most likely won't be playing 4E very much. [/QUOTE]

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