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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 366433" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>The question is itself flawed in its premises, and the particular flaw it has is suggestive of what is worrisome about the attention BoVD is getting.</p><p></p><p>The assumption is that I should be strongly interested in ANYTHING simply because it deals with some sort of subject matter. Why should I be excited to hear that WotC is going to publish a book on evil? Why should I be excited to hear that WotC is going to publish a book on good? I simply don't have enough informatino to answer the question one way or the other. Maybe I'd be more interested in BoED than in BoVD. Maybe it would be the other way around. I don't know until I know more about them than I do, which is practically nothing despite all the hype and all the threads I've read.</p><p></p><p>Yet there seems alot of people are celebrating BoVD as a great thing without even knowing its contents or assessing its quality? Why? How?</p><p></p><p>Part of the problem may be that I'm already a pretty imaginitive person and don't feel the need for a supplement handling either good or evil. Part of the problem is that I generally don't find much use for other peoples fluff. I buy books for the crunchy parts, and I can't imagine that there is enough undetailed evil that needs crunchy rules. Do we really need crunch about slavery? If we need fluff about slavery, surely we would be better in a library reading mature historical references instead of brief surveys written for the least common denominator? Do we really need crunchy rules for various perversions? Don't we already have enough rules for murder? Does anyone feel like we need rules for rape? I already feel I can handle crunchy rules for addictions, torture, sacrifices (good OR evil ones), and most anything that it would be reasonable for book to cover about the acts of evil. And if I don't have rules to cover it, I probably don't want to read about it - least of all in an 'entertainment' book like an RPG text. What could BovD pausibly offer me? The whole thing sounds substanceless and nothing I've heard convinces me otherwise. It's not like I don't already know what evil is, and if I didn't, why would I really want to?</p><p></p><p>No one has ever accused me of running immature games, but the idea of a whole book devoted to things which are presumably more vile and graphic than anything I've felt the need to cover in my 20 years of gaming kinda sickens me. Just what are those things uncovered that we need to cover?</p><p></p><p>Conversely what could BoED offer me? It's not like I don't have good guys in the campaign as well as villains already.</p><p></p><p>Until I hear about something I've overlooked or wouldn't have thought of, or hear about a mechanic better than those I use or material I'm ignorant of, why should I be excited about either one?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 366433, member: 4937"] The question is itself flawed in its premises, and the particular flaw it has is suggestive of what is worrisome about the attention BoVD is getting. The assumption is that I should be strongly interested in ANYTHING simply because it deals with some sort of subject matter. Why should I be excited to hear that WotC is going to publish a book on evil? Why should I be excited to hear that WotC is going to publish a book on good? I simply don't have enough informatino to answer the question one way or the other. Maybe I'd be more interested in BoED than in BoVD. Maybe it would be the other way around. I don't know until I know more about them than I do, which is practically nothing despite all the hype and all the threads I've read. Yet there seems alot of people are celebrating BoVD as a great thing without even knowing its contents or assessing its quality? Why? How? Part of the problem may be that I'm already a pretty imaginitive person and don't feel the need for a supplement handling either good or evil. Part of the problem is that I generally don't find much use for other peoples fluff. I buy books for the crunchy parts, and I can't imagine that there is enough undetailed evil that needs crunchy rules. Do we really need crunch about slavery? If we need fluff about slavery, surely we would be better in a library reading mature historical references instead of brief surveys written for the least common denominator? Do we really need crunchy rules for various perversions? Don't we already have enough rules for murder? Does anyone feel like we need rules for rape? I already feel I can handle crunchy rules for addictions, torture, sacrifices (good OR evil ones), and most anything that it would be reasonable for book to cover about the acts of evil. And if I don't have rules to cover it, I probably don't want to read about it - least of all in an 'entertainment' book like an RPG text. What could BovD pausibly offer me? The whole thing sounds substanceless and nothing I've heard convinces me otherwise. It's not like I don't already know what evil is, and if I didn't, why would I really want to? No one has ever accused me of running immature games, but the idea of a whole book devoted to things which are presumably more vile and graphic than anything I've felt the need to cover in my 20 years of gaming kinda sickens me. Just what are those things uncovered that we need to cover? Conversely what could BoED offer me? It's not like I don't have good guys in the campaign as well as villains already. Until I hear about something I've overlooked or wouldn't have thought of, or hear about a mechanic better than those I use or material I'm ignorant of, why should I be excited about either one? [/QUOTE]
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