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<blockquote data-quote="travathian" data-source="post: 6571423" data-attributes="member: 12105">So essentially all you are as a DM is a dice roller and the voice of the NPCs?This is the problem with so many of the responses in this thread. You make it seem like it is the DM vs PCs and in order to make it 'fair' you roll in the open, so regardless of the outcome you can just throw your arms up and say &quot;well I didn't cheat!&quot; D&amp;D isn't a tabletop wargame. There is no such thing as cheating.Is it cheating to play with Legos and not build what is on the outside of the box?Is it cheating to play with Play-doh and not make what is on the outside of the package?D&amp;D is a game of make believe. Treat it as such. Again, it isn't DM against PCs, it is a bunch of friends hanging out having fun playing make believe.I can't help but notice the join dates of people in the die hard &quot;omg that's cheating!&quot; camp and wonder if this attitude is mostly prevalent in the 4E/WoW generation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="travathian, post: 6571423, member: 12105"] So essentially all you are as a DM is a dice roller and the voice of the NPCs? This is the problem with so many of the responses in this thread. You make it seem like it is the DM vs PCs and in order to make it 'fair' you roll in the open, so regardless of the outcome you can just throw your arms up and say "well I didn't cheat!" D&D isn't a tabletop wargame. [B]There is no such thing as cheating.[/B] Is it cheating to play with Legos and not build what is on the outside of the box? Is it cheating to play with Play-doh and not make what is on the outside of the package? D&D is a game of make believe. Treat it as such. Again, it isn't DM against PCs, it is a bunch of friends hanging out having fun playing make believe. I can't help but notice the join dates of people in the die hard "omg that's cheating!" camp and wonder if this attitude is mostly prevalent in the 4E/WoW generation. [/QUOTE]

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