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Would you change a monster's hit points mid-fight?
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<blockquote data-quote="Relax" data-source="post: 6597242" data-attributes="member: 6793571"><p>Actually it does, from a rules standpoint. Besides, as discussed above "fudge" is not always a synonym for "cheat". Given that DMs are allowed to fudge it can in no way be regarded as cheating.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh for goodness sake. They don't say it's unfair or that it ruins the danger of the game. It says, "<em>Don't distort die rolls too often, though, and don't let on that you're doing it. Otherwise, your players might think they don't face any real risks - or worse, that you're playing favorites.</em>" No mention of fairness, though they do mention that overdoing it may change the way your players think, and they imply that overdoing it may lessen your players' enjoyment. <strong><em>May.</em></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>The DMG doesn't tell them they can cheat. It does recommend that you deceive them, sparingly, but <em>cheat</em>? No.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, <em>that</em> would be cheating, unless of course it is a house rule. You do realise you've just said that if the DM is doing something, why can't the players? Think about that for a second. The DM also gives out treasure. Should the players just take whatever treasure they want? No, that would be cheating. If the players do almost anything the DM is allowed to do they are overstepping their bounds, but I suspect you know this.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You mean by the rules you've decided you like and have decided to play with. Clearly not the rules in the DMG. Clearly not the rules that quite a few others seem to enjoy. You run combat by the rules you like. Stop telling others that are doing the same thing that they're cheating.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here we go again.</p><p></p><p>I know, lets try this. The DM fudging dice rolls isn't cheating. The DM isn't cheating if they fudge a die roll. Fudging is allowed if done by the DM. The DM can fudge a die roll if they so choose. If the DM wants they can fudge dice, the rules say so. And to top it all off, the DM is encouraged to keep this information from their players.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not true. (Are you <em>lying</em>?) You like some of the rules, and you ignore some. Just like everyone else I`d imagine.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, no. As per the dictionary, fudging is a bending of the rules. You know what else fudge is? A delicious chocolaty treat, but I doubt anyone thinks the DMG is advocating turning dice into dessert...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Relax, post: 6597242, member: 6793571"] Actually it does, from a rules standpoint. Besides, as discussed above "fudge" is not always a synonym for "cheat". Given that DMs are allowed to fudge it can in no way be regarded as cheating. Oh for goodness sake. They don't say it's unfair or that it ruins the danger of the game. It says, "[I]Don't distort die rolls too often, though, and don't let on that you're doing it. Otherwise, your players might think they don't face any real risks - or worse, that you're playing favorites.[/I]" No mention of fairness, though they do mention that overdoing it may change the way your players think, and they imply that overdoing it may lessen your players' enjoyment. [B][I]May.[/I][/B] The DMG doesn't tell them they can cheat. It does recommend that you deceive them, sparingly, but [I]cheat[/I]? No. No, [I]that[/I] would be cheating, unless of course it is a house rule. You do realise you've just said that if the DM is doing something, why can't the players? Think about that for a second. The DM also gives out treasure. Should the players just take whatever treasure they want? No, that would be cheating. If the players do almost anything the DM is allowed to do they are overstepping their bounds, but I suspect you know this. You mean by the rules you've decided you like and have decided to play with. Clearly not the rules in the DMG. Clearly not the rules that quite a few others seem to enjoy. You run combat by the rules you like. Stop telling others that are doing the same thing that they're cheating. Here we go again. I know, lets try this. The DM fudging dice rolls isn't cheating. The DM isn't cheating if they fudge a die roll. Fudging is allowed if done by the DM. The DM can fudge a die roll if they so choose. If the DM wants they can fudge dice, the rules say so. And to top it all off, the DM is encouraged to keep this information from their players. That's not true. (Are you [I]lying[/I]?) You like some of the rules, and you ignore some. Just like everyone else I`d imagine. Again, no. As per the dictionary, fudging is a bending of the rules. You know what else fudge is? A delicious chocolaty treat, but I doubt anyone thinks the DMG is advocating turning dice into dessert... [/QUOTE]
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