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<blockquote data-quote="Croesus" data-source="post: 7332345" data-attributes="member: 35019">This is why I consider 5E to be more rules-light than rules-heavy. There are a lot of rules in the PHB that my group simply doesn't use, or we streamlined them to fit our needs. We couldn't do that with 3E, where everything was integrated. And if one looks at the three core books, most of the material is reference, not something that players need to know and/or memorize. There are 900+ pages in the core books, but what's in those pages?PHB: 320 pages, 140+ pages are races, classes, and backgrounds, 100+ pages are spell descriptions, MM: 352 pages, pretty much all monster descriptionsDMG: 320 pages, 80+ pages are magic itemsMy group uses almost no material from the DMG other than magic items. Only the GM needs the MM, and that info is looked up as needed. So only the PHB is really core in terms of what players need to know. And much of that is specific race and class abilities. The actual game rules are only a fraction of the total 900 pages.All that said, I don't expect to change anyone's mind. This poll and thread strike me as a &quot;Tastes great! Less filling!&quot; kind of question. The answer depends on one's expectations, preferences, and experiences.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Croesus, post: 7332345, member: 35019"] This is why I consider 5E to be more rules-light than rules-heavy. There are a lot of rules in the PHB that my group simply doesn't use, or we streamlined them to fit our needs. We couldn't do that with 3E, where everything was integrated. And if one looks at the three core books, most of the material is reference, not something that players need to know and/or memorize. There are 900+ pages in the core books, but what's in those pages? PHB: 320 pages, 140+ pages are races, classes, and backgrounds, 100+ pages are spell descriptions, MM: 352 pages, pretty much all monster descriptions DMG: 320 pages, 80+ pages are magic items My group uses almost no material from the DMG other than magic items. Only the GM needs the MM, and that info is looked up as needed. So only the PHB is really core in terms of what players need to know. And much of that is specific race and class abilities. The actual game rules are only a fraction of the total 900 pages. All that said, I don't expect to change anyone's mind. This poll and thread strike me as a "Tastes great! Less filling!" kind of question. The answer depends on one's expectations, preferences, and experiences. [/QUOTE]

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