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Would you let your PC's become undead?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bastoche" data-source="post: 380198" data-attributes="member: 306"><p>First balance is important. Each and every character <u>should</u> be the same type of undead. It's really not obvious that each undead templates are equivalent.</p><p></p><p>Second, the DM has to be able to challenge the PC. Damage reduction, fast healing, the impossiblity to die (vampire returning to their coffin, lich needing it's phylactery to be destroyed, etc). Therefore you should remove powers from the chosen undead (and remove these powers even for NPC undead of the same type for sake of consistency).</p><p></p><p>Third, no vampire. </p><p></p><p>I play a campaing in which my character is a vampire. It kinda was a test. I'm the only player. I got only one PC and there a mortal sorceress NPC with me (sometimes). We played the bare vampire at first. And even without balance problems (because I'm the only one PC), the vampire template is too powerful. Damage reduction forces the DM to use magic item. Fast healing allow me to "cast heal" between each battles.</p><p></p><p>In the campaign, I moslty face other vampires. But still, after a couples of night (pun intended) of play, we decided to make a few changes. I don't exactly remember the changes we did, but we removed a few abilities.</p><p></p><p>And BTW, a vampire is not powerless at day. He just need to avoid <u>direct</u> contact with sunlight.</p><p></p><p>And in our campaign, there is "role playing" resctriction dissallowing me to create spawns at will. I got created by a band of vampire who are MUCH more powerful then me. They told me not to create vampires unless I have their approbation or <em>else</em> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />.</p><p></p><p>I also played a lich. In a party with other characters. My character is so much more powerful than the others that I completly lost any interest to play that campaign <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't recommend it unless it's to play with a single player. In that case it's fun and it's easy to adjust everything as the campaign flows along.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bastoche, post: 380198, member: 306"] First balance is important. Each and every character [u]should[/u] be the same type of undead. It's really not obvious that each undead templates are equivalent. Second, the DM has to be able to challenge the PC. Damage reduction, fast healing, the impossiblity to die (vampire returning to their coffin, lich needing it's phylactery to be destroyed, etc). Therefore you should remove powers from the chosen undead (and remove these powers even for NPC undead of the same type for sake of consistency). Third, no vampire. I play a campaing in which my character is a vampire. It kinda was a test. I'm the only player. I got only one PC and there a mortal sorceress NPC with me (sometimes). We played the bare vampire at first. And even without balance problems (because I'm the only one PC), the vampire template is too powerful. Damage reduction forces the DM to use magic item. Fast healing allow me to "cast heal" between each battles. In the campaign, I moslty face other vampires. But still, after a couples of night (pun intended) of play, we decided to make a few changes. I don't exactly remember the changes we did, but we removed a few abilities. And BTW, a vampire is not powerless at day. He just need to avoid [u]direct[/u] contact with sunlight. And in our campaign, there is "role playing" resctriction dissallowing me to create spawns at will. I got created by a band of vampire who are MUCH more powerful then me. They told me not to create vampires unless I have their approbation or [i]else[/i] :p. I also played a lich. In a party with other characters. My character is so much more powerful than the others that I completly lost any interest to play that campaign :(. I wouldn't recommend it unless it's to play with a single player. In that case it's fun and it's easy to adjust everything as the campaign flows along. [/QUOTE]
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