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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7878778" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Let me try one more time, because apparently the point was completely lost. When that comment is made, about shouting an arm back on, it’s not meant to be literal. It’s hyperbole. The core rules for current D&D do not have limb loss (it takes a special exemption or rule to do that). In standard combat, losing an arm or leg won’t happen. So it’s obvious that comment isn’t literal. What it’s meant to illustrate through a hyperbolic example is that for a lot of people, they have an issue of a PC being healed instantly via non magical means after taking a serious wound. Who cares if it hits the head, or whatever. Again, not the point. Most attacks cause damage and wounds to an opponent. It’s why the weapon tables and monster stat blocks have attacks as “X points of damage” and not “X points of fatigue”. Every livestream and game table out there has the DM narrate actual bodily damage when attacks hit.</p><p>And yes, many of the folks who have an issue with the warlord doing non magical healing also have issues with the hit point recovery for rests, second winds, and every other form of instant non magical healing. But those are already in the rules, and for people who don’t like them, often houserule them.</p><p>I really don’t care if there is a warlord class or not in the game. I don’t know how they would do it to be unique and not overlap with another class’s abilities (like the battle master), but if people want it, sure. Doesn’t bother me.</p><p>But if you (general you) refuse to even acknowledge the point of what that comment is referencing to because you’re taking it literally, then there’s no point in even trying to discuss it. Especially if you’re taking it literally after already being informed that it’s hyperbole and not meant to be literal. That’s just disingenuous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7878778, member: 15700"] Let me try one more time, because apparently the point was completely lost. When that comment is made, about shouting an arm back on, it’s not meant to be literal. It’s hyperbole. The core rules for current D&D do not have limb loss (it takes a special exemption or rule to do that). In standard combat, losing an arm or leg won’t happen. So it’s obvious that comment isn’t literal. What it’s meant to illustrate through a hyperbolic example is that for a lot of people, they have an issue of a PC being healed instantly via non magical means after taking a serious wound. Who cares if it hits the head, or whatever. Again, not the point. Most attacks cause damage and wounds to an opponent. It’s why the weapon tables and monster stat blocks have attacks as “X points of damage” and not “X points of fatigue”. Every livestream and game table out there has the DM narrate actual bodily damage when attacks hit. And yes, many of the folks who have an issue with the warlord doing non magical healing also have issues with the hit point recovery for rests, second winds, and every other form of instant non magical healing. But those are already in the rules, and for people who don’t like them, often houserule them. I really don’t care if there is a warlord class or not in the game. I don’t know how they would do it to be unique and not overlap with another class’s abilities (like the battle master), but if people want it, sure. Doesn’t bother me. But if you (general you) refuse to even acknowledge the point of what that comment is referencing to because you’re taking it literally, then there’s no point in even trying to discuss it. Especially if you’re taking it literally after already being informed that it’s hyperbole and not meant to be literal. That’s just disingenuous. [/QUOTE]
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