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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nightfly" data-source="post: 9209144" data-attributes="member: 89601">You think rogues are trash tier? Now I understand why we're not seeing eye-to-eye. Our experiences in 5e have been very different. I've played rogues and DMed them and have never, ever thought they were underpowered, much less "trash".A cantrip which does literally the least damage possible, but which people still use heavily because the effect is really good. And now every first level fighter with a standard 15g longsword gets that effect every round. That's pretty nice, actually. Other weapon masteries are even better. And more importantly, you have to factor in all the other buffs and changes.Question to the skeptics: have you actually whipped up several characters under the playtest rules, stern to bow, with an eye toward optimization? I also thought the buffs were pretty minor until I did. It wasn't until I saw everything together on one character sheet that I was impressed.</blockquote>