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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hereticus" data-source="post: 4836411" data-attributes="member: 83093">What we have going on are two camps yelling past each other without making an attempt to understand what is being expressed (while poorly stated) by the other.One camp that favors older editions over 4.0E and on average are not big WoW (or other video game) players are criticizing 4.0E as being too much like WoW.The other camp favors 4.0E over earlier editions and on average are more likely to be WoW (or other video game) players, and they see very few similarities between 4.0E and WoW.I believe my post from way back on page three was one of the more insightful on on this entire Vecna forsaken thread, but had no comments on it related to the OP.So in conclusion, there seems to be significant differences between 4.0E and WoW, and to call them similar (as some are doing) would be incorrect.However IMVHO those that are stating (complaining) that they are similar are not expressing what they are dissatisfied with in an accurate manner. They are  likely objecting that 4.0E had been designed as a game with a video game feel, and WoW being the most popular one was the demon it was compared to.For those who disagree with the 4.0E and WoW comparison, do you believe that 4.0E has more of a video game feel than earlier editions?This is not a loaded question. As I said above, I have enjoyed playing 4.0E.Thank you.</blockquote>