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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 5402058" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>re</strong></p><p></p><p>I think it had more to do with the quality and depth of the material. <em>Forgotten Realms</em> had great writers. They knew how to mix flavor and mechanics into a cohesive whole that made the Realms the most developed fantasy world in print.</p><p></p><p>This tradition goes back to the 2E boxed sets. They did awesome maps and in-depth write ups of various Realms areas that drew you in and made the Realms feel like a living, breathing world.</p><p></p><p>Then add in books like <em>Faiths and Avatars</em> and <em>Powers and Pantheons</em> that made the religions of the Realms seem real and unique.</p><p></p><p>Then in 3E this continued with the <em>Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide</em> and each individual area book that included tons of crunch and fluff that enhanced the game world, provided an incredible number of options for character building, and really made the Realms that much better and more interesting. The material was so good that was being put out for the Realms that people were using it for their non-Realms campaigns.</p><p></p><p>Then here comes 4E with their single, weak campaign book. Not nearly the detailed maps of the old <em>Forgotten Realms Campaign Book</em>. Not nearly the detail for each area. All the personalities Realms lovers came to know and love like Alusair, the Seven Sisters, Khelben Blackstaff, and the like were destroyed in favor of a flavorless, weakly written, cheap compared to previous books Realms product.</p><p></p><p>If you're going to do something like a cataclysmic type restructuring of the Realms, then do it with the same level of detail and love as previous products. Don't sell us Realms lovers garbage and expect us to accept it when we have those beautiful products from 2E and 3E that were worth the money we paid for them on our bookshelves.</p><p></p><p>Realms products used to be the benchmark by which other world were products were judged. They were that high quality. And producing a Realms product of inferior quality like 4E did and shoving it down our throats is not and should not be received well. It wasn't. It was an inferior product all the way around compared to previous Realms books. It was one of the many disappointments I experienced after the 4E launch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 5402058, member: 5834"] [b]re[/b] I think it had more to do with the quality and depth of the material. [i]Forgotten Realms[/i] had great writers. They knew how to mix flavor and mechanics into a cohesive whole that made the Realms the most developed fantasy world in print. This tradition goes back to the 2E boxed sets. They did awesome maps and in-depth write ups of various Realms areas that drew you in and made the Realms feel like a living, breathing world. Then add in books like [i]Faiths and Avatars[/i] and [i]Powers and Pantheons[/i] that made the religions of the Realms seem real and unique. Then in 3E this continued with the [i]Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide[/i] and each individual area book that included tons of crunch and fluff that enhanced the game world, provided an incredible number of options for character building, and really made the Realms that much better and more interesting. The material was so good that was being put out for the Realms that people were using it for their non-Realms campaigns. Then here comes 4E with their single, weak campaign book. Not nearly the detailed maps of the old [i]Forgotten Realms Campaign Book[/i]. Not nearly the detail for each area. All the personalities Realms lovers came to know and love like Alusair, the Seven Sisters, Khelben Blackstaff, and the like were destroyed in favor of a flavorless, weakly written, cheap compared to previous books Realms product. If you're going to do something like a cataclysmic type restructuring of the Realms, then do it with the same level of detail and love as previous products. Don't sell us Realms lovers garbage and expect us to accept it when we have those beautiful products from 2E and 3E that were worth the money we paid for them on our bookshelves. Realms products used to be the benchmark by which other world were products were judged. They were that high quality. And producing a Realms product of inferior quality like 4E did and shoving it down our throats is not and should not be received well. It wasn't. It was an inferior product all the way around compared to previous Realms books. It was one of the many disappointments I experienced after the 4E launch. [/QUOTE]
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