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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chris_Nightwing" data-source="post: 4043334" data-attributes="member: 882">This was my reason for giving in, it was just far too much effort to stay interested. You had to spend far too much to get a functional army together. Then you had to try to paint them, which was its own hobby entirely really. Finally the last version I played was such hard work mechanically that it far too long to have a battle.Necromunda and Mordheim on the other hand, were both excellent. You only needed about ten figures and it could take just an hour for a battle and there were campaign aspects. If they would create a game like that with pre-paints I'd be sold. DDM almost fills this void for me, but actually I'd like something a little less diverse in terms of combatants.GW have had terrible management since, well, forever really. Over-expansion, poor consolidation of their IP and these days it's saddening to look into one of their stores. I don't know how they survive!</blockquote>