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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pants" data-source="post: 3377548" data-attributes="member: 8849">Exactly.Instead of creating a new mechanic, I'd just use an existing one.They live in the Molten Core. That was my reasoning for being immune to fire, game source be damned in this case. The new WoW Monster Guide has a much better take on both Molten Giants and Core Hounds than mine (IMO). Core Hounds, for example, get to pick from a variety of different abilities as they advance, which allows for more of the abilities that I either folded out (with the intention of not making them too complicated to run efficiently) and more varied encounters.I like the way the book handled them quite a lot.I agree, there are probably better ways of doing it, I just couldn't think of a way to word it properly and still keep to the Spirit of the game.Well.... he IS a god. Or at least partially one. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />For most of these epic+ creatures... I try to eyeball the CR's as best as I can. Sometimes it works.... sometimes it doesn't.I also try to view the various 'bosses' around the fact that level 60 characters in WoW translate roughly to level 20 D&D characters. The Monster Guide agrees with me, as Baron Rivendare and Balnazzar hover around CR 20 while Geddon and Garr are 25 (though, to be fair, the editing on the 'boss' statblocks are quite slipshod).Hakkar may very well be a CR 32-34 creature. I'm not really sure, I've never run a game at that high of a level and I don't think I will, but in terms of internal consistency it doesn't feel right making Mag, a glorified really ancient core hound tougher than Hakkar, an ancient god-like being that once caused the destruction of the troll empire. That's the reason he's tougher than Mag.</blockquote>

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