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<blockquote data-quote="GrimCo" data-source="post: 9586315" data-attributes="member: 7044462">Yup. But have one or two encounters like that in big campaign towards end of tier 4, it's ok. Adventures shy away from anything that shuts down PCs abilities. Or God forbid, destroys their magic items. Late teen levels were always problematic from encounter design perspective and they do require more tinkering. If you go with hp bloat or just more monsters, you risk turning it into a slow grind fest. If you go with one big monsters, PCs focus fire and go nova. If you are rushing trough the levels, with party level every or every other session, as a DM you don't have time to customize encounters and tailor them to your party. You need to slow down, throw some encounters to test the waters, see what and how they do things, so you can tweak it for next session. Rinse and repeat. That's why personally, when PC enter tier 4, they stay at same level for at least 3-4 sessions. It gives me, as a DM, info on what to do and time to do it. But then, i don't do published AP-s. And i wouldn't do them out of box for players who are good at optimizing their characters and synergies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GrimCo, post: 9586315, member: 7044462"] Yup. But have one or two encounters like that in big campaign towards end of tier 4, it's ok. Adventures shy away from anything that shuts down PCs abilities. Or God forbid, destroys their magic items. Late teen levels were always problematic from encounter design perspective and they do require more tinkering. If you go with hp bloat or just more monsters, you risk turning it into a slow grind fest. If you go with one big monsters, PCs focus fire and go nova. If you are rushing trough the levels, with party level every or every other session, as a DM you don't have time to customize encounters and tailor them to your party. You need to slow down, throw some encounters to test the waters, see what and how they do things, so you can tweak it for next session. Rinse and repeat. That's why personally, when PC enter tier 4, they stay at same level for at least 3-4 sessions. It gives me, as a DM, info on what to do and time to do it. But then, i don't do published AP-s. And i wouldn't do them out of box for players who are good at optimizing their characters and synergies. [/QUOTE]

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