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<blockquote data-quote="Tsuga C" data-source="post: 5905794" data-attributes="member: 17436">And Get the **** Off My **** Lawn!&nbsp; ;-)I started with the Basic Set in 1979 when I was a 12 year-old Tolkien-o-phile and then quickly moved on to AD&amp;D in 1980.&nbsp; The 1E books were written by adult wargamers for a literate demographic of bright high schoolers and college students.&nbsp; I still have my near-pristine PHB, MM, DMG, D&amp;D, and FF.&nbsp; Why did I keep them all of these years even though my actual playing of D&amp;D waned considerably?Two reasons: 1) AD&amp;D was an important childhood touchstone; 2) the books were aimed at an educated, reasonably sophisticated demographic, not a grabasstic hoard of zit-popping button mashers.&nbsp; From time to time I still pull out one or more of my books and read through them for sake of entertainment and nostalgia because they were that well written.&nbsp; The same cannot be said of the lifeless dreck WotC churned out for 4E.It's high time that they recognize their mistake and accept and remedy it in 5E by starting with the assumption that their audience is both literate and intelligent.&nbsp; Any tabletop RPG designed to appeal to the least common denominator will fail in spades because the people willing to spend 4-6 hours once or twice per week gathered around a table to roleplay and engage in good-natured arguments over weapon speeds and &quot;to hit&quot; adjustments of customized gear aren't going to be satisfied with dull, ultra-streamlined prose and rulesets.&nbsp; We're better than that and we demand more.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tsuga C, post: 5905794, member: 17436"] [b]And Get the **** Off My **** Lawn! ;-)[/b] I started with the Basic Set in 1979 when I was a 12 year-old Tolkien-o-phile and then quickly moved on to AD&D in 1980. The 1E books were written by adult wargamers for a literate demographic of bright high schoolers and college students. I still have my near-pristine PHB, MM, DMG, D&D, and FF. Why did I keep them all of these years even though my actual playing of D&D waned considerably? Two reasons: 1) AD&D was an important childhood touchstone; 2) the books were aimed at an educated, reasonably sophisticated demographic, not a grabasstic hoard of zit-popping button mashers. From time to time I still pull out one or more of my books and read through them for sake of entertainment and nostalgia because they were [b]that[/b] well written. The same cannot be said of the lifeless dreck WotC churned out for 4E. It's high time that they recognize their mistake and accept and remedy it in 5E by starting with the assumption that their audience is both literate and intelligent. Any tabletop RPG designed to appeal to the least common denominator will fail in spades because the people willing to spend 4-6 hours once or twice per week gathered around a table to roleplay and engage in good-natured arguments over weapon speeds and "to hit" adjustments of customized gear aren't going to be satisfied with dull, ultra-streamlined prose and rulesets. We're better than that and we [b]demand[/b] more. [/QUOTE]

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