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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grog" data-source="post: 3885417" data-attributes="member: 6183">Since you're presenting all these things as facts, I'd like to see some sources before I accept them as such.Yes, writers currently get the (abysmally low) DVD rate for internet downloads, and the offer on the table for streaming content was the same (abysmally low) DVD rate. And it's worth point out that the AMPTP's first "offer" in the negotiations was not only to pay the writers nothing for streaming content, but also to redefine existing residuals so they'd get nothing for downloaded content, either. That explains why there wasn't much negotiating earlier this year; when the studios are sticking to a position like that, there's not much to talk about, is there?Again, I'd like to see some sourcing for this "fact." And I'd like it to be something more concrete than simply a statement from a studio executive, considering that we're talking about an industry that's so infamous for corrupt accounting that they actually have the term "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_points" target="_blank">monkey points</a>."And also, it's worth pointing out that this is exactly how the writers got screwed the last time around. Back when movies were first being sold on VHS, the studios said exactly the same thing that they're saying now. "It's too new! We don't know how much money we can make here! We need you to take this crappy deal while we grow the market and find out if there's any money to be made in home video." And then when DVD came along, the studios said "It's home video, same as VHS," and that's how the writers ended up where they are today. I think it's understandable that they don't want the same thing to happen again.$60 million is the average movie budget. That average is skewed by the handful of $100-200 million "blockbusters" the studios produce every year. The majority of movies are made for less than that $60 million figure. Ditto for the marketing figures - most movies don't get nearly $30 million in marketing.So you can't take it as read that every movie loses money at the box office. For some films, that $12 per disc is pure gravy to the studios.</blockquote>

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