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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3885467" data-attributes="member: 2525">Bad behavior of a party is not relevant to the debate? And I am not in any way emotional about this.  It's relevant in my opinion to the issue.  As long as we hear all the bad behavior of the Producers (which we have, repeatedly, in this thread, with no responses from anyone else to it including yourself), I think it's relevant counter point.  I'm just reflecting what I am seeing in this thread.  Like I said, I am actually slightly on the writers side in this debate (though apparently nobody believes me when I say that).  I am trying to give the other side.  For whatever reason, an awful lot of folks seem to want to critically think hard about the Producer's side of things and try and poke holes in those points (which is fair), but won't do the same for the writer's-side of the debate even for points the writer's make that are on their face fairly unsubstantiated (which is not fair).  If you really are not sure where you stand, then why am I the lone voice even bothering to question the writers-side of the debate in this thread?Heck, you even started your post with "the anti-writers side", which is on it's face a very biased approach.  Nobody is anti-writer in this debate.  A lot of producers ARE writers or want to be writers, and this is really a family fight that turned dirty.</blockquote>