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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4051233" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>That is not accurate. </p><p></p><p>First, they do not want to join WGA. They could at any time. There is nothing at all stopping them from joining. In fact, it would be illegal to try and stop any animator or reality show writer from joining the WGA.</p><p></p><p>Second, animation writers DO belong to another union. It's the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE). They have a sub-section called the Animation Guild, which is specifically for "creative artists, <strong>writers</strong> and technicians" working in animation. WGA was literally trying to steal IATSE members by force, using the production contract to do it. It was an incredibly stupid power play, made primarily by one main guy at WGA (who will likely see the loss of his own job, quietly, in the next year). You can view the IATSE/Animation Guild position on the strike here: <a href="http://www.animationguild.org/_Home/home_FRM1.html" target="_blank">http://www.animationguild.org/_Home/home_FRM1.html</a> .</p><p></p><p>Third, as for reality show writers, it's an incredibly complex issue. I'll try to sum it up simply: the people who write reality shows almost always also produce them, and direct them, and edit them, and even act in them sometimes! They cannot really join one union without having a conflict of interest, since they do the work of all the unions, and cannot with confidence state at any given time what percentage of work will fall where. It's totally chaotic, and on the fly. They decide as things happen if someone needs to become an editor that hour, or write something, or direct a scene, for film a scene, or mike a scene, or walk by the background of a scene, or do the work of a producer. WGA knows this. They know that the way the contracts work for reality show employees they could never actually gain the benefits of a writing contract because they would never have the "primary" role of writer. But, they would still have to pay dues. </p><p></p><p>The whole "animation and reality show writers" claim was purely a power play, and I thought it was a very ugly and stupid thing to go after. WGA rank and file didn't want it, the animators and reality show "writers" didn't want it, and the only folks that wanted it were the ones trying to increase WGA jurisdiction because it meant more money for the union and more power because of additional members. I'm really glad those claims were ditched, and the guy who was so obsessed with them was moved entirely out of the negotiation process in the end (and I am betting will be fired).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 4051233, member: 2525"] That is not accurate. First, they do not want to join WGA. They could at any time. There is nothing at all stopping them from joining. In fact, it would be illegal to try and stop any animator or reality show writer from joining the WGA. Second, animation writers DO belong to another union. It's the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE). They have a sub-section called the Animation Guild, which is specifically for "creative artists, [b]writers[/b] and technicians" working in animation. WGA was literally trying to steal IATSE members by force, using the production contract to do it. It was an incredibly stupid power play, made primarily by one main guy at WGA (who will likely see the loss of his own job, quietly, in the next year). You can view the IATSE/Animation Guild position on the strike here: [url]http://www.animationguild.org/_Home/home_FRM1.html[/url] . Third, as for reality show writers, it's an incredibly complex issue. I'll try to sum it up simply: the people who write reality shows almost always also produce them, and direct them, and edit them, and even act in them sometimes! They cannot really join one union without having a conflict of interest, since they do the work of all the unions, and cannot with confidence state at any given time what percentage of work will fall where. It's totally chaotic, and on the fly. They decide as things happen if someone needs to become an editor that hour, or write something, or direct a scene, for film a scene, or mike a scene, or walk by the background of a scene, or do the work of a producer. WGA knows this. They know that the way the contracts work for reality show employees they could never actually gain the benefits of a writing contract because they would never have the "primary" role of writer. But, they would still have to pay dues. The whole "animation and reality show writers" claim was purely a power play, and I thought it was a very ugly and stupid thing to go after. WGA rank and file didn't want it, the animators and reality show "writers" didn't want it, and the only folks that wanted it were the ones trying to increase WGA jurisdiction because it meant more money for the union and more power because of additional members. I'm really glad those claims were ditched, and the guy who was so obsessed with them was moved entirely out of the negotiation process in the end (and I am betting will be fired). [/QUOTE]
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