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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4052043" data-attributes="member: 2525">I didn't overstate it.  Yes, they are those other things.  I know many of them.  There is even one that is a poster on another board I frequent, though she doesn't tell people what she does.  The writers on reality shows are in fact usually at least one of those other things, though sometimes they don't even get a credit for one of the other jobs (in fact, OFTEN they don't get credit for all roles they play, just one of them).  I was describing the standard for that industry, though there are some exceptions.  You can see some of these folks on a couple of cable station shows sometimes (I saw one on Kennedy's show for example), and they talk about how many different hats they have to wear when working reality shows.  That is the nature of that industry, due to how low the budgets are.Here, I will give you an example.  I found this completely randomly in IMDB (not one of the ones I know).  <a href="http://italy.imdb.com/title/tt0398552/fullcredits#cast" target="_blank">Jonathan Murray</a> is listed as a Director, a Writer, and a Producer for this "Real World/Road Rules Challenge: The Inferno" show.  That's not unusual.I was not talking about hyphenate writers when speaking of reality shows, at least not in the traditional usage of that word in the industry.  As you said, a traditional hyphenate is covered under a union contract of some sort.  Reality show folks however, who don't necessarily know what kind of job they will be doing for a particular day well in advance, are not the traditional hyphenates you're referring to.</blockquote>

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