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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4542906" data-attributes="member: 63763">It's possible to play defensively or aggressively in chess.&nbsp;Regardless, when you have a character that has a life beyond the current battle, where what occurs in one battle will have an impact after the battle, you are no longer playing a simple wargame.&nbsp;Chess has no &quot;memory&quot;. However, because your character has a life that takes place between battles/skirmishes/etc ... they have a personality, and they will act a certain way in those fights. Their goals are longer term than &quot;win this fight&quot;. If you die to win the fight ... you have to believe your friends will spring to res you, or really believe in what you are fighting for, etc, etc, etc.&nbsp;As such, even without any &quot;special rule book&quot; ... 4e is a roleplaying game. Your character isn't an interchangeable piece in a wargame anymore than say ... my mechwarrior stops being a character when we go into the wargame &quot;part&quot; of the game. The fact is, if my character dies, he's dead ... it doesn't matter if we win. If my mech is destroyed, it's gone, we have to replace it, or find a new one. The character impacts the wargame and the wargame impacts the character.&nbsp;Ultimately a roleplaying game comes out of playing a role. It started off as a simple role ... playing &quot;the king&quot; or &quot;the thief&quot; or &quot;fighting man&quot; ... it's just instead of just a role, you know have an actual &quot;character&quot; with an identity and he does stuff in his off time when he's not being the king, or the theif, or the fighting man. It's the recurring role, that is impacted and changes over the course of the game, that becomes a character at the heart of a roleplaying game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4542906, member: 63763"] It's possible to play defensively or aggressively in chess. Regardless, when you have a character that has a life beyond the current battle, where what occurs in one battle will have an impact after the battle, you are no longer playing a simple wargame. Chess has no "memory". However, because your character has a life that takes place between battles/skirmishes/etc ... they have a personality, and they will act a certain way in those fights. Their goals are longer term than "win this fight". If you die to win the fight ... you have to believe your friends will spring to res you, or really believe in what you are fighting for, etc, etc, etc. As such, even without any "special rule book" ... 4e is a roleplaying game. Your character isn't an interchangeable piece in a wargame anymore than say ... my mechwarrior stops being a character when we go into the wargame "part" of the game. The fact is, if my character dies, he's dead ... it doesn't matter if we win. If my mech is destroyed, it's gone, we have to replace it, or find a new one. The character impacts the wargame and the wargame impacts the character. Ultimately a roleplaying game comes out of playing a role. It started off as a simple role ... playing "the king" or "the thief" or "fighting man" ... it's just instead of just a role, you know have an actual "character" with an identity and he does stuff in his off time when he's not being the king, or the theif, or the fighting man. It's the recurring role, that is impacted and changes over the course of the game, that becomes a character at the heart of a roleplaying game. [/QUOTE]

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