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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mournblade94" data-source="post: 4630557" data-attributes="member: 74608">With my job I LIVE by the clock.  I am a science teacher so everything I do is timed.  You would be amazed what can be accomplished in a minute.   I would not necessarily count the lookup phase as a reason to call 3rd edition combat slow (Not that you were specifically).  Looking up a rule is independent of the actions of combat built into the rules.   Most of my players know what high level spells they are casting even before the round starts... unless I change something that alters the tactics. I have not seen any difference in the speed of a combat round between 3rd and 4th edition.  I have not experienced high level 4th edition play so I cannot specifically comment.  My high level combat in 3rd edition however was fun and epic, and no one cared how long it took.   For high level encounters I hit 25 minutes or so.</blockquote>