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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8754172" data-attributes="member: 23751">Okay.&nbsp; There are natural nuclear reactors.&nbsp; How many of those involved poured cement, water piped in through metal piping to provide the cooling, power supplied through wires, plastics, rubber, various worked metals, etc.?&nbsp; I'm going to guess none, since the man made versions don't occur naturally.&nbsp; The same with nuclear bombs.I'm not using pre-darwin philosophy.&nbsp; What I'm using are my personal reasons for the existence of those two categories.&nbsp; I view humans as natural, but I don't view what they do that doesn't occur naturally as natural. If a human bites someone or something, well biting is natural.&nbsp; If that same human smelts metal and forges a sword and then stabs something with it, well that sword is not natural.&nbsp; Forged swords don't occur naturally. You aren't going to just find one deep in a mountain.Yeah, I get that.&nbsp; The discussion sort of moved away from cold iron and into what was natural, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8754172, member: 23751"] Okay. There are natural nuclear reactors. How many of those involved poured cement, water piped in through metal piping to provide the cooling, power supplied through wires, plastics, rubber, various worked metals, etc.? I'm going to guess none, since the man made versions don't occur naturally. The same with nuclear bombs. I'm not using pre-darwin philosophy. What I'm using are my personal reasons for the existence of those two categories. I view humans as natural, but I don't view what they do that doesn't occur naturally as natural. If a human bites someone or something, well biting is natural. If that same human smelts metal and forges a sword and then stabs something with it, well that sword is not natural. Forged swords don't occur naturally. You aren't going to just find one deep in a mountain. Yeah, I get that. The discussion sort of moved away from cold iron and into what was natural, though. [/QUOTE]

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