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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 298082" data-attributes="member: 114">That's an interesting point there WulfI'd not thought about it before, but I guess it would be reasonable to deny a reflex saving throw to anyone that could be subject to a coup-de-grace. Someone who is magically &quot;held&quot; or paralysed? certainly. Someone who is tied to a tree? probably.Maybe the appropriate consideration is whether their Dex is effectively 0, and nobody can make a reflex save if their dex is effectively 0?Denying evasion in a grapple I can understand:While grappled, certainly while pinned, a character could be reasonably considered to not have the room needed to move enough.(n.b. I only brought the subject up because I had the mental picture of a 4ft dwarf buried under two Huge beasts, with barely any of him sticking out <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 298082, member: 114"] That's an interesting point there Wulf I'd not thought about it before, but I guess it would be reasonable to deny a reflex saving throw to anyone that could be subject to a coup-de-grace. Someone who is magically "held" or paralysed? certainly. Someone who is tied to a tree? probably. Maybe the appropriate consideration is whether their Dex is effectively 0, and nobody can make a reflex save if their dex is effectively 0? Denying evasion in a grapple I can understand: While grappled, certainly while pinned, a character could be reasonably considered to not have the room needed to move enough. (n.b. I only brought the subject up because I had the mental picture of a 4ft dwarf buried under two Huge beasts, with barely any of him sticking out :)) [/QUOTE]

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