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WW's Sorcerous Pact feat -the new Spellcasting Prodigy, or not?
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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1183740" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>Who exactly are "others"?</p><p></p><p>I certainly have plenty of npcs with complicated allegiances, flaws and weaknesses. And I have been doing it for quite a long time. How do you handle it before this book came out?</p><p></p><p>Loss of wisdom as an effect of insanity or similar strain is fairly cliche. By cliche, I don't mean boring or anything. I just mean moderately common, certainly nothing new. I have used it myself. </p><p></p><p>But it is not part of the feat. Bascially, you are saying you hamstrung your npc in one place so it was balanced to compensate with an overpowered feat.</p><p></p><p>And you may be correct for this npc.</p><p></p><p>But that does nothing to make this feat any less overpowered.</p><p></p><p>And I am not certain that this really works even in the case you present. </p><p>The price the npc is paying is still largely invisible to the players. When they are missing saving throws, they won't much care about this guy's cursed sons.</p><p></p><p>I can make low CON, low WIS arcance casters that are still a good challenge to my party. It never occured to me to need to use an overpowered feat to prop them up. </p><p></p><p>Bottom line, you apparently added some prereqs to the feat that don't actually exist in the feat itself. So it may be balanced in your campaign, but it is not in the book. Thus, nothing you said makes the official feat any less overpowered.</p><p></p><p>On top of that, what you appear to be using as prereqs, some of us "others" just consider to be part of good gamecrafting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 1183740, member: 957"] Who exactly are "others"? I certainly have plenty of npcs with complicated allegiances, flaws and weaknesses. And I have been doing it for quite a long time. How do you handle it before this book came out? Loss of wisdom as an effect of insanity or similar strain is fairly cliche. By cliche, I don't mean boring or anything. I just mean moderately common, certainly nothing new. I have used it myself. But it is not part of the feat. Bascially, you are saying you hamstrung your npc in one place so it was balanced to compensate with an overpowered feat. And you may be correct for this npc. But that does nothing to make this feat any less overpowered. And I am not certain that this really works even in the case you present. The price the npc is paying is still largely invisible to the players. When they are missing saving throws, they won't much care about this guy's cursed sons. I can make low CON, low WIS arcance casters that are still a good challenge to my party. It never occured to me to need to use an overpowered feat to prop them up. Bottom line, you apparently added some prereqs to the feat that don't actually exist in the feat itself. So it may be balanced in your campaign, but it is not in the book. Thus, nothing you said makes the official feat any less overpowered. On top of that, what you appear to be using as prereqs, some of us "others" just consider to be part of good gamecrafting. [/QUOTE]
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