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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8607245" data-attributes="member: 58172">The main complaints concern the higher tiers of 13-16 and 17-20.For this reason, high-tier feats that only become available at levels 13 and 17, can more precisely keep pace with high level spells, from slots 7-8 and slot 9, respectively.Even so, keep in mind, in 5e the save-or-suck spells of previous editions no longer exist. Dealing hit points of damage matters in 5e. Tactics like focus fire especially matters. The martial classes deal outsized damage at these levels. The mage classes envy this damage output. So the complaints of imbalance are debatable at best.There seems to be an unusually frequent number of complaints about the Forcecage spell at slot 7. But the problem seems to be the spell itself and not anything else. It probably needs a nerf or a rethink.Even so, the spells at slots 7 and 8 tend to suck. So even if Forcecage nerfs, other spells of slots 7-8 need to upgrade to a power more appropriate to the slot gradations between 6 and 9.Every slot level seems to have its spells calibrated to doublecheck that the spells of the same slot are moreorless equally powerful and equally desirable, compared to each other. 5e did a good job of getting rid of overpowered spells. But there are way too many underpowered spells at each level. Some spells would work better if demoted to a lower-level slot where it becomes more comparable to the spells of that slot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 8607245, member: 58172"] The main complaints concern the higher tiers of 13-16 and 17-20. For this reason, high-tier feats that only become available at levels 13 and 17, can more precisely keep pace with high level spells, from slots 7-8 and slot 9, respectively. Even so, keep in mind, in 5e the save-or-suck spells of previous editions no longer exist. Dealing hit points of damage matters in 5e. Tactics like focus fire especially matters. The martial classes deal outsized damage at these levels. The mage classes envy this damage output. So the complaints of imbalance are debatable at best. There seems to be an unusually frequent number of complaints about the Forcecage spell at slot 7. But the problem seems to be the spell itself and not anything else. It probably needs a nerf or a rethink. Even so, the spells at slots 7 and 8 tend to suck. So even if Forcecage nerfs, other spells of slots 7-8 need to upgrade to a power more appropriate to the slot gradations between 6 and 9. Every slot level seems to have its spells calibrated to doublecheck that the spells of the same slot are moreorless equally powerful and equally desirable, compared to each other. 5e did a good job of getting rid of overpowered spells. But there are way too many underpowered spells at each level. Some spells would work better if demoted to a lower-level slot where it becomes more comparable to the spells of that slot. [/QUOTE]

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