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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5725682" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>I was pretty faithful in reading X-men up until the 2000s. House of M was pretty good, but then the writing went to hell in a handbasket. The art was okay, but the storylines really didn't make sense and jumped around a LOT. Manifest Destiny is about as far as I got...and really just lost complete interest.</p><p></p><p>I think the bigger thing was that writing was good, then it got better and then it peaked around the late 90s, then started to fall around 2000.</p><p></p><p>In addition, as you said, some of the characters had gotten to the point of the ultimate fate they could reach. Cyclops and Jean Grey Married, they should have retired them out of comics at that point except for an occasional cameo.</p><p></p><p>I hated that they thought that Jean should have stayed dead and so they killed her again...in Wolverine's arm no less. Then had Scott go after Emma...</p><p></p><p>Things like that basically started to kill the entire X-men thing for me as they basically screwed up some of the basic core identity items that each X-men had.</p><p></p><p>Ultimates was actually pretty awesome and a great idea...wish they had something more like that which sticks and gets big. The entire setting really needs a big reboot to the start again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5725682, member: 4348"] I was pretty faithful in reading X-men up until the 2000s. House of M was pretty good, but then the writing went to hell in a handbasket. The art was okay, but the storylines really didn't make sense and jumped around a LOT. Manifest Destiny is about as far as I got...and really just lost complete interest. I think the bigger thing was that writing was good, then it got better and then it peaked around the late 90s, then started to fall around 2000. In addition, as you said, some of the characters had gotten to the point of the ultimate fate they could reach. Cyclops and Jean Grey Married, they should have retired them out of comics at that point except for an occasional cameo. I hated that they thought that Jean should have stayed dead and so they killed her again...in Wolverine's arm no less. Then had Scott go after Emma... Things like that basically started to kill the entire X-men thing for me as they basically screwed up some of the basic core identity items that each X-men had. Ultimates was actually pretty awesome and a great idea...wish they had something more like that which sticks and gets big. The entire setting really needs a big reboot to the start again. [/QUOTE]
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