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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 890975" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>I finally saw X2 with my wife this weekend, and we both loved it.</p><p></p><p>WizarDru: I give you props for being a knowledgable poster on Movie and xcomic book threads. Good job here.</p><p>But what the heck was wrong with the (original) Brood story? I thought it was a highlight of the Xmen comic book post-issue-#144.</p><p>Any story that shows Wolverine's tolerance for pain that well, and also spiritual pain, as in Wolvie (and all the X-men) knowing he's going to live, whereas they are all doomed to die and become hosts to monsters....</p><p>Kurt's silent strength of spirituality in that scene where he prays the rosary in the observation deck is a highpoint in comicdom, to me.</p><p></p><p>Now, about the movie - I'm VERY pleased they kept Kurt/Nightcrawler's Catholic spirituality intact. Too bad they couldn't keep Storm/Ororo's Kenyan Sky-Goddess background intact, to have some nice theological fun.</p><p></p><p>Her discussion with Kurt about anger DID make me wonder if they're gonna introduce Storm's foray into punk violence, tho.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I just guessed right for once (I usually don't see hidden/foreshadowing things unless they're clearly shown on screen), but when Jean had problems in the mall and the electronic gear went haywire, I IMMEDIATELY turned to my wife and said, ecstatically and incredulously, "They're going to do Dark Pheonix!" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p>Really, the lights in the eyes was a dead give-away, I for once noticed.</p><p></p><p>As for Nightcrawler 'porting from the plane to catch Rogue falling at 700 miles an hour - yeah, it was a mistake - I assume they just didn't show him having to do multiple 'ports to accomplish the maneuver, as he of course would have had to. It makes for cleaner filmmaking that way for the uninitiated viewer, and is probablt best in the long run.</p><p>Us fanboys know how it probably would have happened - don't be stuck to what they happen to show onscreen - if you know about the characters and powers, just rationalize what they didn't show in your mind, and be happier than crap that they're including any of it.</p><p></p><p>I DID have a problem with Magneto being petty with Rogue on the plane - it just didn't seem in character to me. Lucky for him, Wolvie wasn't on the plane at the time, or there WOULD have been a fight (was Wolvie there?). </p><p></p><p>Magneto wouldn't go into a stone fortress with only his powers to protect him. The gear was metal, but it was all rock around... too easy to get stuck.</p><p>I don't think Deathstrike could slash thru the door, Magneto's powers are much reduced onscreen from the books (thank GOD!), Wolvie wouldn't have bothered scenting Jean then, Rogue would NOT have had a problem getting the damned seatbelt to work (unlimited technology in the universe, and we can't get a seatbelt to click?), I'm not sure about Nightcrawler having difficulty porting thru the door into Cerebro2-room, blah blah blah.</p><p></p><p>I'm VERY pleased they explained why Nightcrawler acted so out-of-character in the first White-House scene: unless he was mind-controlled, Kurt would never have done something so rash, polarizing, or acted like a monster, baring teeth - he hated that people saw him as a monster - he'd NEVER do something to contribute to that bigoted view.</p><p></p><p>Jean Grey going outside to rescue her friends was PURE storytelling manipulation, and I don't know why you'd expect anything different.</p><p>Was the comic book scene, where they invented a solar storm and had Jean as the only X-Man who could pilot the ship, and everyone else had to hide in the back pods that somehow were safe... was that any less ham-handed and unbelievable?</p><p></p><p>I don't think a scene like that is very possible to be written well... it's just too convoluted and difficult to manufacture - to me, the movie did it satisfactory enough for me.</p><p></p><p>I could chat more, but this is too much as it is...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 890975, member: 1194"] I finally saw X2 with my wife this weekend, and we both loved it. WizarDru: I give you props for being a knowledgable poster on Movie and xcomic book threads. Good job here. But what the heck was wrong with the (original) Brood story? I thought it was a highlight of the Xmen comic book post-issue-#144. Any story that shows Wolverine's tolerance for pain that well, and also spiritual pain, as in Wolvie (and all the X-men) knowing he's going to live, whereas they are all doomed to die and become hosts to monsters.... Kurt's silent strength of spirituality in that scene where he prays the rosary in the observation deck is a highpoint in comicdom, to me. Now, about the movie - I'm VERY pleased they kept Kurt/Nightcrawler's Catholic spirituality intact. Too bad they couldn't keep Storm/Ororo's Kenyan Sky-Goddess background intact, to have some nice theological fun. Her discussion with Kurt about anger DID make me wonder if they're gonna introduce Storm's foray into punk violence, tho. Maybe I just guessed right for once (I usually don't see hidden/foreshadowing things unless they're clearly shown on screen), but when Jean had problems in the mall and the electronic gear went haywire, I IMMEDIATELY turned to my wife and said, ecstatically and incredulously, "They're going to do Dark Pheonix!" :D Really, the lights in the eyes was a dead give-away, I for once noticed. As for Nightcrawler 'porting from the plane to catch Rogue falling at 700 miles an hour - yeah, it was a mistake - I assume they just didn't show him having to do multiple 'ports to accomplish the maneuver, as he of course would have had to. It makes for cleaner filmmaking that way for the uninitiated viewer, and is probablt best in the long run. Us fanboys know how it probably would have happened - don't be stuck to what they happen to show onscreen - if you know about the characters and powers, just rationalize what they didn't show in your mind, and be happier than crap that they're including any of it. I DID have a problem with Magneto being petty with Rogue on the plane - it just didn't seem in character to me. Lucky for him, Wolvie wasn't on the plane at the time, or there WOULD have been a fight (was Wolvie there?). Magneto wouldn't go into a stone fortress with only his powers to protect him. The gear was metal, but it was all rock around... too easy to get stuck. I don't think Deathstrike could slash thru the door, Magneto's powers are much reduced onscreen from the books (thank GOD!), Wolvie wouldn't have bothered scenting Jean then, Rogue would NOT have had a problem getting the damned seatbelt to work (unlimited technology in the universe, and we can't get a seatbelt to click?), I'm not sure about Nightcrawler having difficulty porting thru the door into Cerebro2-room, blah blah blah. I'm VERY pleased they explained why Nightcrawler acted so out-of-character in the first White-House scene: unless he was mind-controlled, Kurt would never have done something so rash, polarizing, or acted like a monster, baring teeth - he hated that people saw him as a monster - he'd NEVER do something to contribute to that bigoted view. Jean Grey going outside to rescue her friends was PURE storytelling manipulation, and I don't know why you'd expect anything different. Was the comic book scene, where they invented a solar storm and had Jean as the only X-Man who could pilot the ship, and everyone else had to hide in the back pods that somehow were safe... was that any less ham-handed and unbelievable? I don't think a scene like that is very possible to be written well... it's just too convoluted and difficult to manufacture - to me, the movie did it satisfactory enough for me. I could chat more, but this is too much as it is... [/QUOTE]
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