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Xanathar’s Guide to Everything is the fastest-selling Dungeons & Dragons book of all time
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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7311901" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Depends on your definition of lying. </p><p></p><p>If I said...5e sold more Books than the core books of the 3e...technically that's the truth (which is what Mearls seems to do a LOT), but the implication that 5e has made more gross than 3e/3.5e would be the lie (IMO, obviously). </p><p></p><p>Technically, he told the truth, but the way people interpret it, is the lie. It seems this type of double talk comes out of WOTC a LOT these days. (heck, it comes from more than just WotC to be honest, it comes from ALL directions).</p><p></p><p>The reason this edition has more legs is WotC has been gutted. It is a LOT easier to support a smaller department than it is a larger one. You may produce less, but you have less expenditures...not just in salaries, but also office space, and other venues of cost. Personnel may not be the only way to show how something is actually doing, but it can be a good indicator on how it's actually doing compared to how it has done in the past. There is a little automation that can be done in the RPG rulebook arena, but the majority of it in regards to creativity, editing, marketing still require manpower as opposed to animation. Thus I'd say that the amount of employees is directly relatable to how much money they are bringing in and how valuable Hasbro actually sees the brand as being currently.</p><p></p><p>Don't mistake my statements as wanting more books however. I am STRONGLY in favor of 5e having an even SLOWER release schedule...sticking as closely to the core books and only the corebooks for my personal preference. </p><p></p><p>I think people are mistaking the double speak for meaning one thing when it is, in fact stating something else and being interpreted as saying something. I think 5e is doing reasonably well, but it is NO LONGER trying to be the tentpole that they were trying to make it in the 3e and 4e days. Instead, they are happy to be relegated to the backroom where there is not as much Executive oversight and visits as there were previously. </p><p></p><p>RPGs may be making larger inroads than they were for the past decade prior...and that's a good thing, especially for Hasbro...but I don't think it's as big a market or massive fan appeal as some make it seem in this thread. It still has a LOOONG way to go for that. It may be hard to see that as rabid fans as we are (why else would we even be on ENworld), but we have a LOOONG way to go until we even approach the numbers that something as simple as the X-men (much less the Avengers, Harry Potter, or Star Wars) have in a fanbase and appeal among the general public.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 7311901, member: 4348"] Depends on your definition of lying. If I said...5e sold more Books than the core books of the 3e...technically that's the truth (which is what Mearls seems to do a LOT), but the implication that 5e has made more gross than 3e/3.5e would be the lie (IMO, obviously). Technically, he told the truth, but the way people interpret it, is the lie. It seems this type of double talk comes out of WOTC a LOT these days. (heck, it comes from more than just WotC to be honest, it comes from ALL directions). The reason this edition has more legs is WotC has been gutted. It is a LOT easier to support a smaller department than it is a larger one. You may produce less, but you have less expenditures...not just in salaries, but also office space, and other venues of cost. Personnel may not be the only way to show how something is actually doing, but it can be a good indicator on how it's actually doing compared to how it has done in the past. There is a little automation that can be done in the RPG rulebook arena, but the majority of it in regards to creativity, editing, marketing still require manpower as opposed to animation. Thus I'd say that the amount of employees is directly relatable to how much money they are bringing in and how valuable Hasbro actually sees the brand as being currently. Don't mistake my statements as wanting more books however. I am STRONGLY in favor of 5e having an even SLOWER release schedule...sticking as closely to the core books and only the corebooks for my personal preference. I think people are mistaking the double speak for meaning one thing when it is, in fact stating something else and being interpreted as saying something. I think 5e is doing reasonably well, but it is NO LONGER trying to be the tentpole that they were trying to make it in the 3e and 4e days. Instead, they are happy to be relegated to the backroom where there is not as much Executive oversight and visits as there were previously. RPGs may be making larger inroads than they were for the past decade prior...and that's a good thing, especially for Hasbro...but I don't think it's as big a market or massive fan appeal as some make it seem in this thread. It still has a LOOONG way to go for that. It may be hard to see that as rabid fans as we are (why else would we even be on ENworld), but we have a LOOONG way to go until we even approach the numbers that something as simple as the X-men (much less the Avengers, Harry Potter, or Star Wars) have in a fanbase and appeal among the general public. [/QUOTE]
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