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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7312109" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Can you post those stock reports. The ones I have seen show that the main draw from WotC is actually Magic and occasionally other itmes. D&D isn't really mentioned, and is not even trying to be a tentpole at this point. Of course, Hasbro has had other items last report which sent many scrambling, but it wasn't D&D (actually, people were probably selling because of the all time highs for it in July). Profits themselves are good, but I haven't seen nary much about D&D in the reports over more important (and importantly, tentpole) properties.</p><p></p><p>And until one sees the breakdown of what specifically each brand is bringing in, taking an interpretation of what Mearls stated may not be the best course of action. I'm not certain he said what you think he said (though it could be he plainly stated it, I expect it is more like what he said originally about the book sales when 5e was first released, which was VERY misleading to say the least...truthful...yes, but misinterpreted from what I saw by just about everyone who read it). If he stated it plainly, I'd probably like to see the numbers reflected (as well as the quote to make the judgement myself on whether he stated what you think he stated, as that could also imply something that could challenge for a higher significance in the WotC numbers. </p><p></p><p>Top of the Non-Fiction list isn't exactly rolling in doe. Heck, 90% of the time, top of the Fiction list isn't rolling in doe. With the reliance on Amazon...it's even less doe than it used to be (like 50% less). </p><p></p><p>Hasbro as a brand has done stellar (Despite the stock sell off recently and the rapid decrease in price between August and November). I'm not seeing the prominence of D&D in their reports that you are stating though. There may have been mentions, but there were some rather big mentions in 2000, 2001, and others...as well as 2008. The only REALLY big D&D report that may be notable enough in regards to comparison of the earlier ones that I saw was shortly after 5e was released. There hasn't been a ton of stuff recently. If you are saying there is more in the stock reports in any vague fashion than between 2010 -2013...well...that might not exactly be some stellar feat or anything that amazes anyone who has had Hasbro Stock for any length of time.</p><p></p><p>PS: I'm not saying D&D isn't doing well. I think it's doing well. I think that the idea that it has made more gross profits than other editions is Questonable. I would say that Mearls most likely said that the PHB (or even the core rulebooks) have sold more than any other edition (or even 3e and 4e combined) is the more likely statement. That is a FAR cry than saying it has made more gross than any other edition. I'm delighted with the state of 5e, but I'm not going to go off into thinking it has sold far more (in gross profits and total books) than any of the brands prior to it. Earlier editions had made ALMOST 50 million (though I'm not sure if there is an internet source for that, I think there was one of the producers who said it made almost 50 million ONE year, but unfortunately could not sustain that which meant that Hasbro's hopes for it to be a tentpole were not going to fly) in a year at some points. Normally it was 30 million or less. What we then would be looking at is D&D book sales that are bringing in at least 15 to 20 million, and despite how well D&D is doing, and their books being at the top of the non-fiction lists...I'm not sure I see D&D doing that presently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 7312109, member: 4348"] Can you post those stock reports. The ones I have seen show that the main draw from WotC is actually Magic and occasionally other itmes. D&D isn't really mentioned, and is not even trying to be a tentpole at this point. Of course, Hasbro has had other items last report which sent many scrambling, but it wasn't D&D (actually, people were probably selling because of the all time highs for it in July). Profits themselves are good, but I haven't seen nary much about D&D in the reports over more important (and importantly, tentpole) properties. And until one sees the breakdown of what specifically each brand is bringing in, taking an interpretation of what Mearls stated may not be the best course of action. I'm not certain he said what you think he said (though it could be he plainly stated it, I expect it is more like what he said originally about the book sales when 5e was first released, which was VERY misleading to say the least...truthful...yes, but misinterpreted from what I saw by just about everyone who read it). If he stated it plainly, I'd probably like to see the numbers reflected (as well as the quote to make the judgement myself on whether he stated what you think he stated, as that could also imply something that could challenge for a higher significance in the WotC numbers. Top of the Non-Fiction list isn't exactly rolling in doe. Heck, 90% of the time, top of the Fiction list isn't rolling in doe. With the reliance on Amazon...it's even less doe than it used to be (like 50% less). Hasbro as a brand has done stellar (Despite the stock sell off recently and the rapid decrease in price between August and November). I'm not seeing the prominence of D&D in their reports that you are stating though. There may have been mentions, but there were some rather big mentions in 2000, 2001, and others...as well as 2008. The only REALLY big D&D report that may be notable enough in regards to comparison of the earlier ones that I saw was shortly after 5e was released. There hasn't been a ton of stuff recently. If you are saying there is more in the stock reports in any vague fashion than between 2010 -2013...well...that might not exactly be some stellar feat or anything that amazes anyone who has had Hasbro Stock for any length of time. PS: I'm not saying D&D isn't doing well. I think it's doing well. I think that the idea that it has made more gross profits than other editions is Questonable. I would say that Mearls most likely said that the PHB (or even the core rulebooks) have sold more than any other edition (or even 3e and 4e combined) is the more likely statement. That is a FAR cry than saying it has made more gross than any other edition. I'm delighted with the state of 5e, but I'm not going to go off into thinking it has sold far more (in gross profits and total books) than any of the brands prior to it. Earlier editions had made ALMOST 50 million (though I'm not sure if there is an internet source for that, I think there was one of the producers who said it made almost 50 million ONE year, but unfortunately could not sustain that which meant that Hasbro's hopes for it to be a tentpole were not going to fly) in a year at some points. Normally it was 30 million or less. What we then would be looking at is D&D book sales that are bringing in at least 15 to 20 million, and despite how well D&D is doing, and their books being at the top of the non-fiction lists...I'm not sure I see D&D doing that presently. [/QUOTE]
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