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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7292844" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Nah... hogwash... bollocks.. etc</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Did you notice that in the example given the GM did not trust the player **first**?</p><p></p><p>The GM asked the player, pretty much straight up was he acting in bad faith.</p><p></p><p>Based off nothing more than a direct use of the mechanics allowed in the game and a fortunate series of events.</p><p></p><p>THE GM does not deserve any more trust than any other player at the table.</p><p></p><p>I am NOT in competition with the GM, i am not playing against them. I am playing with them and with all the other players even if the characters we run may sometimes be competitors - most often our PCs competing with the GMs NPCs.</p><p></p><p>I the GM setup in his game that exact sequence of "how spell-counter-ID" works they should be fine with my using it as they do. Did we question the GM about cheating when his NPCs threw spells and the good one got through? Not shown in that example.</p><p></p><p>What we saw in that example was a player playing by the rules (since the gm did not stop it the first time) and a GM actually asking the player were they cheating by changing their choice after knowing the counter spell.</p><p></p><p>All the players at the table should trust each other... period... and the idea that one of them deserves trust any differently because of the hat they happen to be wearing is way off base - IMO.</p><p></p><p>Obviously, if players (including GMs0 find this mystery shuffle thing helps make their games more fun, great, but to me its not anything close to something i would be adding.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7292844, member: 6919838"] Nah... hogwash... bollocks.. etc :-) Did you notice that in the example given the GM did not trust the player **first**? The GM asked the player, pretty much straight up was he acting in bad faith. Based off nothing more than a direct use of the mechanics allowed in the game and a fortunate series of events. THE GM does not deserve any more trust than any other player at the table. I am NOT in competition with the GM, i am not playing against them. I am playing with them and with all the other players even if the characters we run may sometimes be competitors - most often our PCs competing with the GMs NPCs. I the GM setup in his game that exact sequence of "how spell-counter-ID" works they should be fine with my using it as they do. Did we question the GM about cheating when his NPCs threw spells and the good one got through? Not shown in that example. What we saw in that example was a player playing by the rules (since the gm did not stop it the first time) and a GM actually asking the player were they cheating by changing their choice after knowing the counter spell. All the players at the table should trust each other... period... and the idea that one of them deserves trust any differently because of the hat they happen to be wearing is way off base - IMO. Obviously, if players (including GMs0 find this mystery shuffle thing helps make their games more fun, great, but to me its not anything close to something i would be adding. [/QUOTE]
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