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<blockquote data-quote="Essafah" data-source="post: 7954648" data-attributes="member: 16472"><p>See, I fundamentally disagree with this line of reasoning. Why?</p><p></p><p>D&D is a business. It generates profits by selling products. This on its face is not bad. Indeed most RPG companys have to have additional materials such as splat books to make money. I state splat books specifically vs. adventures because adventures are geared towards DMs not players and most gamers are players not DMs.</p><p></p><p>Yes, this does require some investment but compare the money spent on D&D to ANY other hobby and even with the vast amount of splat books that existed in 3rd edition (since you mentioned that edition) D&D is a VERY economical hobby. Compare the cost to play and be effective at D&D to the cost of other hobbies such as Magic: The Gathering or tabletop wargames such as Warhammer 40k, Video game systems (PS5 and new Xbox will probaby be priced at $500 for the basic system), let alone sports hobbies like golf and there is simply no comparison. I feel fortunate that I am into an affordable hobby that at its height of splat books which was 2E and later 3E had me dropped $50 a month for an optional book....again compare that to any other hobby.</p><p></p><p>Also, the encounters are not made to be grindfest to kill PCS. 5E is geared towards cinematic action to make the PCs feel like heroes and again I think this is a good design model. Despite the vocal outcry from I suspect a relative small contingent of OSR fans a lot of people including old school gamers did not want OSR style of play. One reason probably why OSR style games don't dominate the market of RPGs. Also DMS get "power creep" via new monsters being added and so forth. So, no I don't think power creep needs to be avoided. I think attractive options that attracts players is vital for the long-term survival of a game and expecting to have a hobby and spend hardly any money on it is not fair or realistic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Essafah, post: 7954648, member: 16472"] See, I fundamentally disagree with this line of reasoning. Why? D&D is a business. It generates profits by selling products. This on its face is not bad. Indeed most RPG companys have to have additional materials such as splat books to make money. I state splat books specifically vs. adventures because adventures are geared towards DMs not players and most gamers are players not DMs. Yes, this does require some investment but compare the money spent on D&D to ANY other hobby and even with the vast amount of splat books that existed in 3rd edition (since you mentioned that edition) D&D is a VERY economical hobby. Compare the cost to play and be effective at D&D to the cost of other hobbies such as Magic: The Gathering or tabletop wargames such as Warhammer 40k, Video game systems (PS5 and new Xbox will probaby be priced at $500 for the basic system), let alone sports hobbies like golf and there is simply no comparison. I feel fortunate that I am into an affordable hobby that at its height of splat books which was 2E and later 3E had me dropped $50 a month for an optional book....again compare that to any other hobby. Also, the encounters are not made to be grindfest to kill PCS. 5E is geared towards cinematic action to make the PCs feel like heroes and again I think this is a good design model. Despite the vocal outcry from I suspect a relative small contingent of OSR fans a lot of people including old school gamers did not want OSR style of play. One reason probably why OSR style games don't dominate the market of RPGs. Also DMS get "power creep" via new monsters being added and so forth. So, no I don't think power creep needs to be avoided. I think attractive options that attracts players is vital for the long-term survival of a game and expecting to have a hobby and spend hardly any money on it is not fair or realistic. [/QUOTE]
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