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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7133538" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>In case it's not clear from the people who have replied to this thread, a lot of people like fluff in their books, do not consider it useless like you do, and do not agree that crunch is what "counts" for a book. Your desires, once again, are not a substitute for reading the general list of desires from the fan population at large. </p><p></p><p>And this isn't a new debate. It's actually quite old. Monte Cook even entered the trenches once on this debate, concerning a forgotten realms release written by Sean K Reynolds that was intentionally MOSTLY fluff. A LOT of gamers like fluff in their published books from WOTC. In fact in my personal opinion one reason for the success of 5e is the increased fluff content, relative to 4e, which enhances the "Feel" of the edition in a manner similar to older editions. They ARE book-books, and not just rule-books, and the words surrounding the rules are as important or more important than the rules themselves for the portrayal of the content.</p><p></p><p>Finding a balance between crunch and fluff certainly involves both some art and science, but the position you appear to be staking out that "Fluff=Useless" is not a well-shared position based on years of experience over this old issue. So, while you don't have to AGREE, and you are free to complain all you want (though I'd suggest tweeting your complaint to Mearls directly is much more effective than posting it here) it sure would be nice if you acknowledged your view is not necessarily everyone's view on this topic. You're not likely to get an en mass complaint, and seem more likely to be leading a charge that the crowd behind you is going to step back from rather than follow. You might get a better response though if you tried to articulate WHY you feel crunch is so important and fluff so lacking in importance. You seem to just assume everyone thinks the same on this issue and inherently understands why you think the way you do about this issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7133538, member: 2525"] In case it's not clear from the people who have replied to this thread, a lot of people like fluff in their books, do not consider it useless like you do, and do not agree that crunch is what "counts" for a book. Your desires, once again, are not a substitute for reading the general list of desires from the fan population at large. And this isn't a new debate. It's actually quite old. Monte Cook even entered the trenches once on this debate, concerning a forgotten realms release written by Sean K Reynolds that was intentionally MOSTLY fluff. A LOT of gamers like fluff in their published books from WOTC. In fact in my personal opinion one reason for the success of 5e is the increased fluff content, relative to 4e, which enhances the "Feel" of the edition in a manner similar to older editions. They ARE book-books, and not just rule-books, and the words surrounding the rules are as important or more important than the rules themselves for the portrayal of the content. Finding a balance between crunch and fluff certainly involves both some art and science, but the position you appear to be staking out that "Fluff=Useless" is not a well-shared position based on years of experience over this old issue. So, while you don't have to AGREE, and you are free to complain all you want (though I'd suggest tweeting your complaint to Mearls directly is much more effective than posting it here) it sure would be nice if you acknowledged your view is not necessarily everyone's view on this topic. You're not likely to get an en mass complaint, and seem more likely to be leading a charge that the crowd behind you is going to step back from rather than follow. You might get a better response though if you tried to articulate WHY you feel crunch is so important and fluff so lacking in importance. You seem to just assume everyone thinks the same on this issue and inherently understands why you think the way you do about this issue. [/QUOTE]
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