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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 7251569" data-attributes="member: 5038">I agree. As someone else mentioned, during the open playtest, many of us were sending in comments&nbsp; addressing this (and similar issues), Despite our best efforts we were ignored by the designers.&nbsp; Anyway, my non-official was as to look at class variants (e.g., the 5e spell-less ranger and 3e Unearthed Arcana) and follow their lead.&nbsp;&nbsp; My solution was the following:Rogue Variant: Wilderness Rogue&nbsp; &nbsp; Skills: Replace Investigation, Performance, and Persuasion with&nbsp; Animal Handling, Nature, and Survival&nbsp; &nbsp; Tools: Replace Thieves' Tools with Cartographer's Tools or Herbalist kit&nbsp; &nbsp; Level 1: Signals and Trail Signs:&nbsp; You are trained in alternate means of&nbsp; communication used by hunters, mountain men, scouts, trappers, and rangers and which can only be understood by others with similar training.&nbsp; This means of communication includes&nbsp; hand/arm gestures, animal sounds and smoke signals. In addition, you are trained&nbsp; in various methods of trail signs including blazes, rock stacking, and&nbsp; grass and twigs signs which can be left behind to communicate information about the area. This ability replaces Thieves' Cant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 7251569, member: 5038"] I agree. As someone else mentioned, during the open playtest, many of us were sending in comments addressing this (and similar issues), Despite our best efforts we were ignored by the designers. Anyway, my non-official was as to look at class variants (e.g., the 5e spell-less ranger and 3e Unearthed Arcana) and follow their lead. My solution was the following: Rogue Variant: Wilderness Rogue Skills: Replace Investigation, Performance, and Persuasion with Animal Handling, Nature, and Survival Tools: Replace Thieves' Tools with Cartographer's Tools or Herbalist kit Level 1: Signals and Trail Signs: You are trained in alternate means of communication used by hunters, mountain men, scouts, trappers, and rangers and which can only be understood by others with similar training. This means of communication includes hand/arm gestures, animal sounds and smoke signals. In addition, you are trained in various methods of trail signs including blazes, rock stacking, and grass and twigs signs which can be left behind to communicate information about the area. This ability replaces Thieves' Cant. [/QUOTE]

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