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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7725861" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>Not really. The PHB explicitly suggests some concepts, philosophies, and non-god divine forces as potential deities for a cleric to pick.</p><p> I've not seen this spelled out explicitly anywhere. </p><p>Are you sure that you're not misreading suggested examples as the only options? Or misreading "deity" as a D&D mechanical term requiring a FR-style 'god'?</p><p></p><p> So are the lists of divine forces, philosophies etc. They're probably in the PHB because picking a deity is part of Player Character generation (particularly for a cleric). If the only list of deities in the PHB was the default FR gods, than that would have excluded most of the other types of deities. </p><p></p><p> That is already established in the PHB: The Silver Flame, and other impersonal deities are mentioned a couple of times in the text as well as in the list of clerical deities.</p><p>Its worth pointing out that the Silver Flame isn't that close to the 'God is Light' concept I believe though. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any listed deities along those lines, but creating new deities like 'god is light' and 'god is compassionate actions' should be pretty simple. They sound similar to the alignment-philosophy deities.</p><p></p><p> I think that the Silver Flame has actually been mentioned as a potential source for the Undying Light Warlock as well.</p><p></p><p> I quite like the very Eberronian concept that the Silver Flame as a deity is very distinct from the Church of the Silver Flame and the Nation of Thrane. Many outside the Church follow the deity, and some inside the Church don't.</p><p>The way that the Silver Flame interacts with the "gods" of the setting is also interesting: acknowledging them but providing a more material alternative to the gods.</p><p></p><p> It already does most of that. No Errata needed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 7725861, member: 6802951"] Not really. The PHB explicitly suggests some concepts, philosophies, and non-god divine forces as potential deities for a cleric to pick. I've not seen this spelled out explicitly anywhere. Are you sure that you're not misreading suggested examples as the only options? Or misreading "deity" as a D&D mechanical term requiring a FR-style 'god'? So are the lists of divine forces, philosophies etc. They're probably in the PHB because picking a deity is part of Player Character generation (particularly for a cleric). If the only list of deities in the PHB was the default FR gods, than that would have excluded most of the other types of deities. That is already established in the PHB: The Silver Flame, and other impersonal deities are mentioned a couple of times in the text as well as in the list of clerical deities. Its worth pointing out that the Silver Flame isn't that close to the 'God is Light' concept I believe though. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any listed deities along those lines, but creating new deities like 'god is light' and 'god is compassionate actions' should be pretty simple. They sound similar to the alignment-philosophy deities. I think that the Silver Flame has actually been mentioned as a potential source for the Undying Light Warlock as well. I quite like the very Eberronian concept that the Silver Flame as a deity is very distinct from the Church of the Silver Flame and the Nation of Thrane. Many outside the Church follow the deity, and some inside the Church don't. The way that the Silver Flame interacts with the "gods" of the setting is also interesting: acknowledging them but providing a more material alternative to the gods. It already does most of that. No Errata needed. [/QUOTE]
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