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<blockquote data-quote="Ketser" data-source="post: 7244533" data-attributes="member: 66805">While there is some thematic overlap between celestial and seeker, there are also a number of considerable differences. The Celestial is the rework of the Undying Light patron, focused on radiant damage and healing and getting their stuff from a celestial patron. The Seeker patron can be a celestial entity, but thematically and mechanically the subclass is about travel. divination and search for knowledge and mystery, getting mainly features that were oriented towards assisting in hazardous travels, with patron spells being travel or divination oriented.The UA invocations for the Seeker were Path of The Seeker and Seeker's Speech. First gave ability to ignore difficult terrain and advantage against some movement restraining effects, second gave two long rest switchable bonus languages. So kinda different from what you would expect from a &quot;celelock,&quot; although i could see the speech one working well with it. Of course, i'm not sure if the pact specific invocations stay, because from the UA articles it seemed a lot of people didn't like that some of the invocations were limited to specific patrons. In fact they removed patron limitations in a later article.My thought about Seeker being in is mainly based on the invocations. Maybe WoTC considered it during the UA articles, but decided against it. I can see why they wouldn't put it in. Just bringing it up that seeker can be a possibility and something i would like to see together with Celestial and Hexblade.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ketser, post: 7244533, member: 66805"] While there is some thematic overlap between celestial and seeker, there are also a number of considerable differences. The Celestial is the rework of the Undying Light patron, focused on radiant damage and healing and getting their stuff from a celestial patron. The Seeker patron can be a celestial entity, but thematically and mechanically the subclass is about travel. divination and search for knowledge and mystery, getting mainly features that were oriented towards assisting in hazardous travels, with patron spells being travel or divination oriented. The UA invocations for the Seeker were Path of The Seeker and Seeker's Speech. First gave ability to ignore difficult terrain and advantage against some movement restraining effects, second gave two long rest switchable bonus languages. So kinda different from what you would expect from a "celelock," although i could see the speech one working well with it. Of course, i'm not sure if the pact specific invocations stay, because from the UA articles it seemed a lot of people didn't like that some of the invocations were limited to specific patrons. In fact they removed patron limitations in a later article. My thought about Seeker being in is mainly based on the invocations. Maybe WoTC considered it during the UA articles, but decided against it. I can see why they wouldn't put it in. Just bringing it up that seeker can be a possibility and something i would like to see together with Celestial and Hexblade. [/QUOTE]

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