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<blockquote data-quote="WayneLigon" data-source="post: 4449949" data-attributes="member: 3649"><p>Alfred fights when he needs to. He was a WWII intel agent and quite capable in combat in his younger days. He's a superb actor, field medic, and spy. So he probably fails the criteria as well.</p><p></p><p>You're going to find a number of precedents in the Golden Age comics. Almost every hero worth his salt had a sidekick, and not in the Robin sense. Green Lantern had taxidriver Doiby Dickles, the Guardian had The Newsboy Legion, etc. Often they were poor, working joes who just got caught up in the superheroes events and were occassionally able to lend a real hand. They're often used for comedic relief but many are brave in their own right. They'd tackle a bad guy they saw menacing their buddy. They didn't get captured or put in danger all that often -- that was usually reserved for the kid sidekicks (but be sorry for anyone who ties up Bucky...) or love interests -- they were often the hero's 'man on the street'.</p><p></p><p>Little Boy Blue and his friends are just kids. No training other than kids sports, home made costumes, and still they go out and take on mobsters. The Newsboy Legion were homeless boys with no combat training, but still they took on Nazi menaces they uncovered. I think you could find several other examples; many of your early non-powered heroes I would go so far as to say they didn't have 'extraordinary' combat skills. They just had the pure guts to put on a mask and use some high-school boxing training to take on the bad guys.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneLigon, post: 4449949, member: 3649"] Alfred fights when he needs to. He was a WWII intel agent and quite capable in combat in his younger days. He's a superb actor, field medic, and spy. So he probably fails the criteria as well. You're going to find a number of precedents in the Golden Age comics. Almost every hero worth his salt had a sidekick, and not in the Robin sense. Green Lantern had taxidriver Doiby Dickles, the Guardian had The Newsboy Legion, etc. Often they were poor, working joes who just got caught up in the superheroes events and were occassionally able to lend a real hand. They're often used for comedic relief but many are brave in their own right. They'd tackle a bad guy they saw menacing their buddy. They didn't get captured or put in danger all that often -- that was usually reserved for the kid sidekicks (but be sorry for anyone who ties up Bucky...) or love interests -- they were often the hero's 'man on the street'. Little Boy Blue and his friends are just kids. No training other than kids sports, home made costumes, and still they go out and take on mobsters. The Newsboy Legion were homeless boys with no combat training, but still they took on Nazi menaces they uncovered. I think you could find several other examples; many of your early non-powered heroes I would go so far as to say they didn't have 'extraordinary' combat skills. They just had the pure guts to put on a mask and use some high-school boxing training to take on the bad guys. [/QUOTE]
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