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<blockquote data-quote="The_Universe" data-source="post: 2135267" data-attributes="member: 8944">But has he already chosen for that possibility?&nbsp; If a potential conflict WILL go in favor of the child, the oath is broken.&nbsp; If he will weigh the options AT THAT TIME, and THEN choose, he has not. &nbsp;This is not a matter of opinion.&nbsp; It is an oath that you swore to uphold that you may have broken.&nbsp; The circle could all say, &quot;he was justified in choosing the child over us, as a father at least,&quot; and the oath would still be broken.&nbsp; &nbsp;If it's opinion-based, then EVERY TIME you disagreed, you would have been branded and cast out of the oath.&nbsp; It's not.&nbsp; It is merely to dedicate yourself to the cause and the circle above ALL things.&nbsp; I'm willing to accept that he may not know what he'd choose - if so, he might break it later, but not now. That's fine.&nbsp; But if the choice has already been made, the oath is broken.&nbsp; &nbsp;This is NOT the circle exiling Archon.&nbsp; This is magic of a sacred oath enforcing itself upon one who willingly and freely took part in it (even helped to author it).&nbsp; Just as Justice could not choose Varis over the cause, Just as L'Aurel could not choose Jansten over the cause, Just as Xath could not choose Archon over the cause, so too can Archon not choose the child over the cause.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The_Universe, post: 2135267, member: 8944"] But has he already chosen for that possibility? If a potential conflict WILL go in favor of the child, the oath is broken. If he will weigh the options AT THAT TIME, and THEN choose, he has not. This is not a matter of opinion. It is an oath that you swore to uphold that you may have broken. The circle could all say, "he was justified in choosing the child over us, as a father at least," and the oath would still be broken. If it's opinion-based, then EVERY TIME you disagreed, you would have been branded and cast out of the oath. It's not. It is merely to dedicate yourself to the cause and the circle above ALL things. I'm willing to accept that he may not know what he'd choose - if so, he might break it later, but not now. That's fine. But if the choice has already been made, the oath is broken. This is NOT the circle exiling Archon. This is magic of a sacred oath enforcing itself upon one who willingly and freely took part in it (even helped to author it). Just as Justice could not choose Varis over the cause, Just as L'Aurel could not choose Jansten over the cause, Just as Xath could not choose Archon over the cause, so too can Archon not choose the child over the cause. [/QUOTE]

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