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<blockquote data-quote="sbwoodside" data-source="post: 177757" data-attributes="member: 4271">Now hold on a minute here. You guys are throwing around numbers without taking into consideration that larger parties are more powerful and thus deserve less rewards. Let's say there's two parties: a normal 4-member party of 5th-level characters called &quot;The Cooks&quot; and a big 8-member party of 5th level characters called &quot;The Dicers&quot;.What defines a &quot;challenge&quot; for either party (accroding to the DMG) should be an encounter that uses of 20% of each PCs resources.The Cooks will be &quot;challenged&quot; by a CR 5 monster. But, The Dicers are not going to be challenged by a CR 5 monster. They might lose more like 10% each. Playtest it to find out exactly.I think you should called The Dicers a 7th-level party, using the same concept they use in &quot;Challenge Ratings for NPCs&quot; on p.167 of DMG. So, when The Dicers beat up a CR7 monster, they get 2100 = 262 XP each.Compare to The Cooks when they kill a CR 5 monster they get 1500 = 375 XP each. Well, for The Dicers to each get 375 XP each for killing one monster, it has to be CR 10, so maybe The Dicers should be called a 10th level party.I guess I've just contradicted myself. Can someone untangle this for me?Simon</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sbwoodside, post: 177757, member: 4271"] Now hold on a minute here. You guys are throwing around numbers without taking into consideration that larger parties are more powerful and thus deserve less rewards. Let's say there's two parties: a normal 4-member party of 5th-level characters called "The Cooks" and a big 8-member party of 5th level characters called "The Dicers". What defines a "challenge" for either party (accroding to the DMG) should be an encounter that uses of 20% of each PCs resources. The Cooks will be "challenged" by a CR 5 monster. But, The Dicers are not going to be challenged by a CR 5 monster. They might lose more like 10% each. Playtest it to find out exactly. I think you should called The Dicers a 7th-level party, using the same concept they use in "Challenge Ratings for NPCs" on p.167 of DMG. So, when The Dicers beat up a CR7 monster, they get 2100 = 262 XP each. Compare to The Cooks when they kill a CR 5 monster they get 1500 = 375 XP each. Well, for The Dicers to each get 375 XP each for killing one monster, it has to be CR 10, so maybe The Dicers should be called a 10th level party. I guess I've just contradicted myself. Can someone untangle this for me? Simon [/QUOTE]

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